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"Combinations in homeopathy" , Sat 22 Mar 22:52


I am the member of many forums and mailing lists. I was reading views about the use of combination in homeopathy at forum. I have visited so many countries and observed the homeopathic status with myself. In some countries homeopathic combinations are so popular. What is your views about the use of combination in homeopathy.


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"Re(1):Combinations in homeopathy" , Sun 23 Mar 00:39


Is there any scientific support for homeopathy? I've often wondered this but never looked.

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"Re(2):Combinations in homeopathy" , Sun 23 Mar 11:25


Yes! But before understanding some topic one should have knowledge of that scientific field. Just like if you say prove einstein theory then you must know about mass, gravational pull, centripetal and centerifugal forces etc then you will be able to understand the equation. In the same way if you want to know the scientific basis of homeopathy then first you must know about the laws of science first then you will be able to understand homeopathy in better way.

Put the title "Scientific basis of homeopathy" in www.google.com you will find hundred of sites.


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"Re(3):Combinations in homeopathy" , Sun 23 Mar 23:03:


Hmmm .....

My question is this: are there clinical studies into the effectiveness of homeopathic remedies? It's a fair question and I don't think it's fair to fob me off with a Google search.

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"Re(4):Combinations in homeopathy" , Tue 25 Mar 12:46


I'm sorry to report that there isn't much good clinical support for homeopathy (i.e. positive studies with good methodology). One of the frequent critisicms I encountered when I searched was down to methodology. Maybe this gives a way out for believers right now.

This paragraph sums up what I found:

"There is nothing wrong with the hypothesis that homeopathic remedies, no matter how implausible, are effective. However, such a hypothesis is amenable to scientific testing. Proper trials of homeopathic remedies should be easy to conduct. However, whether they are evaluated by review, by meta-analysis or by postulated physical mechanism, there is no good evidence to date that homeopathic remedies are effective treatments for any condition in human or in veterinary medicine. Nor is there evidence that they are superior to already established therapies."

[From the Google-cached copy of http://www.phys.hawaii.edu/vjs/www/med/homeop.html ]

In defence of homeopathy in general, it should be pointed out that its followers introduced a number of important therapeutic tenets to medicine (e.g. the holistic approach.

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"Re(5):Combinations in homeopathy" , Wed 26 Mar 04:10


O.K Now you are forcing me to reply on the scientific basis. Give me some time to write few technical paragraphs to prove this mysterious science of this universe.

I would like to request you to read that article with open heart.

I love homeopathy and its all principles. I have studied wide variety of subjects on science. This is true that most of the homeopaths have lack of this scientific knowledge they have different professions and they are practicing this pathy as side buisness. Few of them have only correspondance course.

But all in all homeopathy is the pathy of future. It has cure for all diseases. I love this pathty very much.


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"Re(6):Combinations in homeopathy" , Wed 26 Mar 04:17


Your provided link is not working. How could you say all about homeopathy without reading the link


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"Re(7):Combinations in homeopathy" , Wed 26 Mar 05:20:


I did say the Google-cached copy of that link The original link is down. Put the link into Google, then click the "Show Google's cache" option.

I'm not completely sure that you understand what I am asking. I'm interested in what you write about the "science" of homeopathy, but there's a much simpler question first.

I want to know if there are good clinical studies that show homeopathy is better than a placebo.

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"Re(8):Combinations in homeopathy" , Tue 1 Apr 20:06


quote:
I did say the Google-cached copy of that link The original link is down. Put the link into Google, then click the "Show Google's cache" option.I'm not completely sure that you understand what I a ...
Here is some research for you.

http://www.homeopathic.org/research.htm

Catherine


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"Re(8):Combinations in homeopathy" , Wed 26 Mar 12:31


Yes I can understand your question. I know from where you are talking This question from you tell the whole story of your mind. I appreciate your question. You seems to me a good intellectual person.

Homeopathy is a mystery. Countless theories attempting to explain its different aspect have been offered throughout the history. But we are not clear. It is a good think that now people have seriously started learning and are despretly trying to come to some conclusion about homeopathic way of action. But so for no result. But reality is it works and works with utmost care. Remember, Reality needs no reference. Homeopathy is a reality.

What I am observing. Most of the homeopaths have no background to able to understand basic concepts of science but they do know little bit about the art of healing i.e. homeopathy . For example you know how to drive a car but you don’t have an idea of two strokes or four-stroke engine or 1000 cc or 1500 cc car. But when you all give judgement on homeopathy like a Scientist. Then it amuses to many members.

Let’s take an example of BERMUDA TRIANGLE.

http://www.parascope.com/en/triangle1.jpg

If a ship will enter into Bermuda Triangle by accident. The ship will go to sink. It will never come back. No body knows how does it happen. But the reality is it was happened. Some are saying there is a force inside that area which attracts anything which is passing that way. Some are saying methane gas is coming from that area which burnt everything which will pass through that area. Some aeroplane also get crashed when they were passing that area.

What is the mystery behind burmoda. Still no body exactly knows but we have so many theories but non-of them completely tell exact answer.

For writing this article I took help from the various links some are mentioned as under.
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~daood/paulc.htm
http://altmed.creighton.edu/Homeopathy/history.htm
http://www.lyghtforce.com/HomeoList/00006747.htm
http://www.theness.com/articles/homeopathy-cs0103.html
http://www.redwingbooks.com/products/books/EneMedSciBas.cfm
http://www.innerself.com/Health/comments/defending_homeopathy_Comments.htm
http://www.boiron.com/en/htm/04-politique/fondamentale_03.htm
http://www.biolumanetics.net/tantalus/
http://www.digibio.com/
http://www.high-dilutions.net/
http://hem.passagen.se/thebee/SCIENCE/Potprobl.htm
http://altmed.creighton.edu/Homeopathy/philosophical.htm
http://www.tfn.net/HealthGazette/homeop.html
http://www.lyghtforce.com/HomeoList/00006748.htm
Body system has thousand of internal systems. Different pathies are depending on different body system. Just like acupunture, this system is using benefits from nerves which has direct link with the brain. Magnetotherapy is relying on positive and negative bipolar phenomenon of body, which is also a kind of system in the body. Some systems can be seen through naked eyes and some are invisible. You can observe some changes in the body but you can't see them. Just like electricity you can't see it but can be detected or measured by applying different techniques and experiments. One system in the body is called reflex action. This can be observe in the body but you can't see it.
Homeopathic medicines are used to transfer unique set of molecular structure or codes in to the body by using strange system which can be observe but can not be seen.

Each homeopathic crude substance has unique set of molecular codes or unique structure of placement of molecules i.e. Zinc met has unique molecular structure which is different to selenium or belladonna. This molecular structure or set of code is natural and existing independently. Just like we have above 105 elements and each element has its unique character, set of code and naturally existing in this universe and we are studying them with doing experiment.
The science is base on scientific methods. Which move around a circle. These include observation -> hypothesis -> experiment -> result -> conclusion -> theory -> law and these are also interlinked with each other.
To accept something you need an observation and perform experiment to prove. To prove homeopathy you need an observation and perform experiment and see which system of the body, this pathy is utilizing. Now here you observed proving of a medicine by accident. Just like an apple was dropped in front of Newton who was sitting in a garden and then he made hypothesis after observation of fall of apple that why did the apple fall on earth? Finally he brought the law of gravitational pull after doing so many experiments and derived conclusion. Remember you can't see gravitational pull with your naked eyes but you can only observe it by doing experiment.
In the same way, homeopathic treatment is observational base. You did proving and observe the symptoms in the body or in other words some changes has been observed in the body when some plants or animal substance were administer on healthy individuals. When the same medicine was given to sick person, it has been observe that medicine gave excellent result. How did it happen? Still no body knows. But this is happening continuously just like no body knows what is gravitational pull but still it is working and everybody is getting benefit by applying this law.

In the sense homeopathic principle or law "The same medicine which produces symptoms in sick can restore the condition of healthy individual" is still working on. How ? This is big question and work is still going on to prove it just like you can't say "From where gravitational power came on the earth? Whether this power of attraction is present in the center of the ground or it is located somewhere else in the universe" May be there is a big magnet in the center of the ground. Still no body knows but we are getting observation day by day.

Dr. Samuel Hahnemann discovered phenomenon during an experiment that each medicinal substance has the ability to produce some uneven or unnatural symptoms in the body and the same medicinal substance after potentization has the capability of settling the same symptoms due to the change in its set of code or molecular structure as found in crude form with the comparison of set of code structure or placement of molecules in the potency.

Mmolecular placement in crude form is different as compared to the molecular placement in potency form. Each set of placement of molecules has different impact over the body. This has been observed through experiments. How does it happen? I don’t know. It is all observational base outcome, which has been constructed after doing many experiments over the sick and healthy individual by thousand and thousand number of Hahnemann’s followers.

When you need only less then 100 atoms of Cyanide poison over any exposed part of the human body for deca second and the person will immediately expire within less then one second. In the same way homeopathic dilutions will take less then one second for absorption into the body from any exposed part or where rich accumulation / exchange of capillaries are available like lips, nose, finger tips and taste buds etc.

Just to teach you. If I ask you, put a drop of cyanide over the blank diskette which is made up of lactose or sucrose. Will you eat it? And if you eat, will it not absorb in the stomach?

Believe me, the tablet having negligible quantity of cyanide will take one second to react with your red blood corpuscles and it will take a second to kill you. You don’t have to wait for the absorption of tablet to absorb in the stomach. (Don’t get angry. I just presented here an example. My prayers are with you)

If you still don’t believe. Just take .000001 mg of Cyanide put it on wheat flour and mix two or three drops of water and put that globule in front of a dog. See the result? The dog will not take second sigh after eating that globule of wheat flour.

My dear! try to understand homeopathic dilutions. The molecular behaviour of alcohol of Puls 30 potency is totally different as compared to the molecular behaviour of fresh alcohol, which we generally take for preparing new potency. The reason is alcohol present in 30 c potency of Puls came from after passing through a special method of succession and potentization which can be proved physically but the result of it can be obtained by doing experiment over the sick people. As Rutherford proved the presence of nucleus in the atom by experiment and observation and not actually showing physically.
So you have simple criteria to see the result of homeopathy. Feverish condition, red face, rush of blood towards head, high temperature (104 105 forenheit) pain temples, head congestion, high blood pressure and pain in epiglottis etc this type of condition is calling belladonna of homeopathy. Just give one dose of Belladonna 1M and observe the changes in the patient. You will observe that all the severity of the symptoms in the patient has been subsided in no time. How it was happened. I don't know. What is the philosophy behind this experiment? I don't know. How the medicine belladonna do cover the symptoms of the patient. I don't know
There are many mysterious phenomenons in the world, e.g pyramids of Egypt and burmod triangle is the example in front of us. We have different theories but still no one can tell us the exact answer of these phenomenons. Work is still going on these projects. Homeopathy also works. How no body knows. We have only mere speculative theories to prove it but can’t say 100 percent. But observation tells us it yields results according to its law of similar.

All the best!

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"Re(9):Combinations in homeopathy" , Wed 26 Mar 19:27


I can't claim to know much about the subject, but I remember a TV program on the BBC a while back which tried to prove that homeopathy could work and win $1 million from James Randi's Paranormal Challenge. They failed. The website of the program is here. The Q&A section of this site points out that some clinical trials have shown homeopathy to be effective but the results have proved to be difficult to repeat, and there could be a publication bias operating (positive results get reported, negative ones do not). Because homeopathic remedies are so dilute that it is doubtful they contain any molecules of the original ingredients, some studies have focused on proving that water has a 'memory' of substances that have been dissolved in it. This is such a radical claim that it's going to take a lot of evidence to convince sceptics.

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"Re(10):Combinations in homeopathy" , Thu 3 Apr 09:28


yes i agree with you there are some reliaties which we should accept and that reality is you can't prove homeopathy in present time with available scientific knowledge but at the same time this is also included in the reality that this system is growing day by day and getting popularity due to having paramount results for ailing humanity in the form of cure. I also partially answered your question like above mail in the previous post of mine. Read indetail... you will find the answer why do we not prove homeopathy?


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