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"HELP HELP" , Tue 25 May 08:21


hi guys,hope you can offer some advice,suffering from panic anxiety attacks for 20yrs,always handled them with clonazapam,which as also worked didnt take them all the time and always weaned my way of them with no ill effects.but now my anxiety is full blown to the point i quit my job 3 months ago,started taling 5htp and feel better in myself but the anxiety is still here so i took relora i found it gave me anxiety so now i would like to try l-theanine should i also take gaba.im returning to work on saturday and really need to feel calm and normal.i also tale magnesium,calcium.


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"Re(1):HELP HELP" , Tue 15 Jun 09:30


Hey you might give SJW a try....here is a pretty informitive website right here.....http://qualitycounts.com/fpstjohns.html.......also id go with Perika if you are to go this rought...start off with recomended dosage for first month and see how you feel...if you feel you need more people say you can go to 1800 mgs a day which is 6 pills a day.....and after reading that website above it makes since as to why 1800 mg may work even better for most.Good Luck!


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"Re(1):HELP HELP" , Fri 28 May 10:39


I hear you, honey. Panic attacks and toxic anxiety are so debilitating and scary. It sounds like you're trying the usual remedies to calm down - gaba, magnesium, etc. As far as L-theanine I haven't personally noticed a huge difference. I use L-taurine which seems to stabilize the brain storms somewhat. I take 500mg morning and at night. I've noticed good effects from 800mg folic acid and Carlson's Best fish oil 1 Tbs daily.

When you're in the midst of a panic attack, as I'm sure you well know, nothing anyone tells you at that time registers. The mid brain takes over and higher brain functioning goes out the window. One just has to either ride it through (the other thing that goes out the window is hope that it will ever end - but it always does. For that one at least), or pop a benzo as an emergency measure. You have to do whatever it takes to stop that accelerating downward spiral. Getting outside and walking it off helps, if it's possible to do so. Telling myself 'I can take this!' and listening to inner guidance (more on that later) gives me courage and brings me back into my higher reasoning functions. But with all this, I'll still pop a benzo, cause that's what they're there for and they're a great symptomatic help.

A theory is that blood pH and carbon dioxide levels (too little) are way off during these attacks and need to be stabilized. Breathing into a paper bag or cupped hands helps carbon dioxide levels normalize. During an attack, if you can get it together, take a 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in some juice or water. It tastes terrible but quickly alkalizes the blood into a more normal pH. Definitely do this if you feel one coming on. I always carry a supply with me - feels like a little safety blanket. Practicing ordered breathing at all times and getting exercise and clean water is probably the best prevention.

I agree that taking any benzo for a length of time isn't the answer because of tolerance, although they sure do help when heavy artillery is needed. What one has to do is to build reserves of strength and stamina during 'normal times' and create healthy new brain and body cells through nutrition. Work up to getting alot of daily outdoor exercise to move that static stuck energy. It's the last thing we feel like doing, but it is the best medicine. Just do it. Practice slow calming breathing. Disordered breathing, in my book, is the single greatest contributor to unmanageable anxiety. There's alot of good info on the www.breathing.com website. There are alot of 'product pitches' there too, but his theories on mood disorders and breathing are right on and the articles worth checking out. I've been working with his program and it's helped tremendously. Haven't had a panic attack in a while, although anxiety is a daily challenge.

Drink alot of water to flush out toxic stress byproducts and build up to at least 6G vitamin C. The tranquillizing effect of high Vitamin C therapy is not widely known. Nourishing sleep (easier said than done!) and eating healthy is critical. So is good elimination. Don't want toxic sludge backing up and contributing any unnecessary bad stuff. Look into mercury toxicity. I was tested and my mercury levels were very high. That has been the bottom line reason for the failure of all my medication attempts, my health issues and my periodic 'mad as a hatter' episodes. I'm convinced of this and am currently working on a natural detox. Until that crap is out, everything else is just a band-aid (but every other good practice still has to be followed. The alternative is dreadful).

Prayer always helps, no matter what your beliefs. Casting your net out with the intention of gathering good, kind and protective energies is a wonderful prayer. Try to be open to your 'guardian angel' during good times and trust that you'll receive guidance. Try to remember to tune into that soft calming voice during the bad times to 'talk you down'. That voice is not delusional but REAL and the only that makes it through for me when my nervous system is in high red alert. That support truly exists and is always there for you, even when you don't think so and feel bonkers and totally alone. I know this for a fact. That loving voice has saved my butt many a time. So good luck to you from someone who'se definitely been there and is definitely on a healing journey.
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