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"Brand info please" , Fri 8 Nov 02:12


I've been taking SJW for about five weeks now and am only now starting to feel somewhat calmer and better about life.
However.. bit confused about the brand I'm using (in UK). It's called Kudos, 900mg high potency it says. Also says the product is standardised although it doesn't give the percentage. "Each capsule will provide: St John's Wort herb 300mg, St John's Wort (10:1) extract 60mg - equivalent to St John's Wort 600mg". I've been taking one a day - is that right?
When I've finished this bottle I'm moving onto another brand (there was a special offer on!) called Nature's Best. This has got the standardised 0.3% hypericin. It says "Typically per tablet: St John's Wort 1360mg providing hypericin 500ug (provided by 170mg of an 8:1 extract)." The u after 500 is funny 'u'symbol with tail. It advises to take two per day. Does that sound right too?
Would be very grateful for advice on the above as I'd hate to think I hadn't been taking enough!
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"Re(1):Brand info please" , Sun 10 Nov 02:35


UKHat: Sounds like you haven't been taking anywhere near enough.

The Kudos packaging details sound disappointing. A standardised product needs to define what substance it is standardising on, plus what percentage they assert in their product. Kudos appears to offer neither of these.

Standard "300mg" tablets contain 300mg of SJW extract, which is most commonly a 6:1 extract ... so if you do the math, this is equivalent to 1800mg of dry herb. At best, Kudos supplies the equivalent of 900mg of dry herb, so you would effectively need at least 6 tablets a day to reach the usual dose (I'd say you'd need even more given the small quantity of extract in it).

The Nature's Best capsules are not much better. At 500ug of hypericin per tablet, you are going to need 6 of these tablets per day to reach the common dosage (which is 2700-3000ug of hypericin).

At the risk of sounding condescending, buying on price alone is a real no-no. SJW is generally cheap in any case, save for a handful of premium product lines like Kira. And you don't really have to suffer Kira-like prices either to get quality e.g. Quest is a solid choice:

http://www.questvitamins.co.uk/products/full_description.php?ProductID=76

It's fairly inexpensive, potent, standardised, vegan-friendly etc.

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"Re(2):Brand info please" , Sun 10 Nov 05:05


I wish I'd come across this site before! OK, so will increase dose dramatically and then move to another brand when I've finished my 'bargain' brand. Had assumed that I just wasn't responding very quickly. If only I'd known!
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"Re(3):Brand info please" , Sun 10 Nov 15:22


The UK is a strange place when it comes to buying SJW. I'm still not sure why, but it is common for some UK manufacturers to recommend a dose of 900ug hypericin per day, a mere one-third of the common dose. This is very conservative and perhaps too conservative.

It also leads to contradictions for multi-national manufacturers e.g. the makers of Kira market the same "3-per-day" tablets in the US as "1-per-day" in the UK. I'm sure there is no biological reason for that

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"Re(4):Brand info please" , Mon 11 Nov 02:37


Thanks for all your help. I'll probably try the brand you recommended when I've got through my bottles and bottles of the special offer. At least I now know/understand what I'm looking for when reading the labels and can also more accurately gauge wwhat is priced reasonably. As you say, the UK has quite a way to go and is does seem ridiculous that there are these disparities with the USA.
Anyway, that's me back to waiting for some kind of difference, but I know I'm taking the right dosage at last.


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