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| |  "L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!"
, Tue 21 Oct 17:50
i started tryptophan. I didnt really expect anything to happen. I mean ive gone through 5htp with vit. b-6, sam-e, st johns wort, rhodiola, sceletium- all thought to boost serotonin- they did absolutely nothing. SSRIs made me tired, couldnt stand the sedation, went through all of them!
So About 20 min after my first dose of about 1000mg, it was light the light bulb just turned on inside of my head. The following week was the same. Anxiety and ocd were nil. Maybe this is the godsend that ive been waiting for! It seems too good to be true!!
Posts: 3 | | Registered: Thu 10 Jul 2003 13:58 |
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| | "Re(1):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Thu 30 Oct 14:00
Are you still on 1,000mg. of Tryptophan a day?
Working well for you, huh.
Do you take it in the morning or evening?
Powder or capsule form?
My dr. has me on powder form, 500mg. in the morning to be mixed with juice.
Pauline (I just started) St. Johns wort and HTP-5 caused alot of stomach upset and thus did not help in relieving my anxiety and depression.
Thanks, Pauline
Pauline
Posts: 138 | | Registered: Wednesday 14 Mar 2001 10:59 |
| | "Re(1):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Sat 25 Oct 20:18:
Hm... I find this this a little disturbing.
Also this message board makes me think again about l-tryptophan and 5-htp.
[this message was edited by ada on Sat 25 Oct 21:05]
Posts: 10 | | Registered: Sat 5 Jul 2003 19:32 |
| | | "Not too worrying" , Sun 23 Nov 14:55
There was a problem in 1989. The Japanese company making L-tryptophan changed their process and a contaminant (EBT) was introduced. The first change to the process was to use a new genetically engineered strain of bacteria. The second change was to stop filtering the product. The combination of these factors led to a dangerous product.
EBT has been found in 5htp, but in much, much smaller amounts. A single case of disease from 5htp was reported from a person taking extremely high doses (1000+ mg/day) for a long period. The risk from 5htp is not zero, but I am not as concerned about EMS as some other effects of 5htp - particularly the fact that it doesn't work for everyone, or might make some problems worse. But that is true of most therapies.
Posts: 30 | | Registered: Thu 2 Oct 2003 17:20 |
| | "Re(1):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Fri 24 Oct 18:29
use the following link for more info. on tryptopan its from amazon.com So what do u think?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0684844885/ref=sib_rdr_prev1_189/002-7532837-1966403?checkSum=nbqLzhi%2bknjVMLjLA0qBaRNTr2wIpbo%2fKsboRt3tiAs%3d&p=S05C&keywords=tryptophan%20obsessive%20compulsive%20disorder&twc=#reader-page
Posts: 10 | | Registered: Thu 10 Jul 2003 13:58 |
| | "Re(1):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Fri 24 Oct 17:58
heres some more info on tryptophan:
The FDA Ban of L-Tryptophan:
Politics, Profits and Prozac
by Dean Wolfe Manders, Ph.D.
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In the fall of 1989, the FDA recalled L-Tryptophan, an amino acid nutritional supplement, stating that it caused a rare and deadly flu-like condition (Eosinophilia-Myalgia Syndrome — EMS). On March 22, 1990, the FDA banned the public sale dietary of L-Tryptophan completely. This ban continues today. On March 26, 1990, Newsweek featured a lead article praising the virtues of the anti-depressant drug Prozac. Its multi-color cover displayed a floating, gigantic green and white capsule of Prozac with the caption: “Prozac: A Breakthrough Drug for Depression.”
The fact that the FDA ban of L-Tryptophan and the Newsweek Prozac cover story occurred within four days of each other went unnoticed by both the media and the public. Yet, to those who understand the effective properties of L-Tryptophan and Prozac, the concurrence seems “unbelievably coincidental.” The link here is the brain neurotransmitter serotonin — a biochemical nerve signal conductor. The action of Prozac and L-Tryptophan are both involved with serotonin, but in totally different ways.
Elevated levels of serotonin in the body often result in the relief of depression, as well as substantial reduction in pain sensitivity, anxiety and stress. Prozac, as well as other new anti-depressant drugs such as Paxil and Zoloft, attempt to enhance levels of serotonin by working on whatever amounts of it already exist in the body (these drugs are known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors). None of these drugs, however, produce serotonin. In contrast, ingested L-Tryptophan acts to produce serotonin, even in individuals who generate little serotonin of their own. The most effective way to elevate levels of serotonin would be to use a serotonin producer rather than a serotonin enhancer.
The continuing FDA public ban of L-Tryptophan prevents popular access to this most effective serotonin producer. The millions of Americans who for decades safely had relied upon L-Tryptophan to relieve depression, anxiety and PMS, as well as to control pain and induce natural sleep, have been forced elsewhere for solutions. Routinely, such solutions are pharmaceutical in nature: people are forced to use either often highly addictive, expensive, and sometimes dangerous drugs like Xanax, Valium, Halcion, Dalmane, Codeine, Anafranil, Prozac, and others, or, simply suffer.
Present FDA public policy maintains that L-Tryptophan is an untested, unapproved and hazardous drug. The analytical work done a few years ago by the Centers for Disease Control and the Mayo Clinic, research which traced the fall 1989 outbreak of the serious flu-like condition to contaminants found in batches of L-Tryptophan made by the Japanese company Showa Denko, has not convinced the FDA to allow L-Tryptophan back on the market. This decision is based primarily on the research of FDA and NIMH scientists who state that L-Tryptophan itself, irrespective of contaminants, is a dangerous substance. Other university-based research scientists disagree with these findings.
The public availability of L-Tryptophan is too important an issue only to be argued and shrouded within a scientific debate that remains, ultimately, mystifying to the vast majority of Americans. There are many obvious facts worthy of public attention, and public concern. For example, consider the following:
On February 9, 1993, a United States government patent (#5185157) was issued to use L-Tryptophan to treat, and cure EMS, the very same deadly flu-like condition which prompted the FDA to take L-Tryptophan off the market in 1989.
Notwithstanding its public ban and import alert on L-Tryptophan, the FDA today allows Ajinomoto U.S.A. the right to import from Japan human-use L-Tryptophan. Distributed from the Ajinomoto plant in Raleigh, North Carolina, the L-Tryptophan is then sold to, and through, a network of compounding pharmacies across the United States. Purchased by individuals only under a physician's order, L-Tryptophan emerges as a new prescription drug in the serotonin marketplace; one hundred 500 mg capsules cost about $75 — approximately five times more than if they were sold as a dietary supplement.
Since the FDA holds the political mandate and power of a public regulatory agency established, ostensibly, to protect people from raw corporate interests in drug production and distribution, the actions of the FDA in concert with Ajinomoto U.S.A. are illuminating. By publicly banning L-Tryptophan from its dietary supplement status and price, while allowing L-Tryptophan to be sold as a high-priced prescription drug, the naked duplicity of FDA L-Tryptophan policy is revealed.
During and after the 1989 EMS outbreak, the FDA did not totally ban the use of L-Tryptophan in humans — then, as today, the FDA has granted the pharmaceutical industry the protected right to use L-Tryptophan in hospital settings. Manufactured by Abbott Laboratories, the amino acid injectable solutions Aminosyn and Aminosyn II contain as much as 200 mg of L-Tryptophan. (Moreover, L-Tryptophan has never been removed from baby food produced and sold within the United States.)
While the FDA has banned the public sale and use of safe, non-contaminated, dietary supplement L-Tryptophan for people, the United States Department of Agriculture still sanctions the legal sale and use of non-contaminated L-Tryptophan for animals. Today, as in the past, feed grade L-Tryptophan continues to be used as a nutritional and bulk feed additive by the commercial hog and chicken farming industry. Additionally, L-Tryptophan is now available for use by veterinarians in caring for horses and pets. Outside of the United States, in countries such as Canada, the Netherlands, Germany, England, and others, L-Tryptophan is widely used. Nowhere, have any serious or widespread health problems occurred.
At bottom, the FDA public ban of safe, non-contaminated L-Tryptophan is uneven, expensive, and biased in favor of the pharmaceutical industry. The FDA proscription effectively awards billions of dollars in profits to pharmaceutical companies and their suppliers in the same proportion as it adds billions of unnecessary dollars to the nation's already bloated health care expenditures.
On June 15, 1993, the FDA Dietary Supplement Task Force published a report on the work it had been doing in the area of developing FDA policy around nutritional supplements. On page two, the report admits, “The Task Force considered various issues in its deliberations, including... what steps are necessary to ensure that the existence of dietary supplements on the market does not act as a disincentive for drug development.”
In this case, the FDA has succeeded in carrying out its stated policy goal. With competition from publicly available L-Tryptophan removed, the rapidly expanding market in prescription serotonin drugs — now among them L-Tryptophan itself — contains no major “disincentives” for the massive accumulation of pharmaceutical industry profits.
It is now time for appropriate congressional committees to review openly and aggressively the entire matter of L-Tryptophan. This will provide a needed forum where political, corporate, and scientific issues of FDA L-Tryptophan regulatory policy may be addressed. There exists ample precedent for such hearings: in the 1980's and early 1990's, for example, such investigations uncovered FDA favoritism in the approval of generic drugs and the bribery of FDA officials.
The story of L-Tryptophan illustrates a sad and perverse picture of the politics and priorities of public health in America: A safe, dietary-supplement serotonin producer is publicly unavailable to people, while daily fed to animals by corporate agribusiness. A drug patent is approved to use L-Tryptophan to cure the very condition the FDA claims it caused. And, while publicly exclaiming that L-Tryptophan is a dangerous and untested drug, the FDA, more quietly, allows human-use L-Tryptophan to be imported, and then marketed and sold by the pharmaceutical industry.
To allow the FDA ban of L-Tryptophan to continue unreviewed and uninvestigated condemns millions of Americans to unnecessary financial expenditures and needless suffering.
Posts: 9 | | Registered: Thu 10 Jul 2003 13:58 |
| | "Re(1):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Wed 22 Oct 16:12
Hi!
Could you share the main problems you have - feeling depressed, low concentration, poor memory, etc. and which ones did L-Tryptophan help?
What doses have you tried with 5HTP and L-Tryptophan?
Thanks!
Posts: 6 | | Registered: Sat 5 Jul 2003 19:32 |
| | | "Re(2):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Wed 22 Oct 19:01
i took it for repetitive thoughts and social anxiety. 5HTP did nothin and tryptophan did wonders... go figure. I took doses of 5htp up to 150mg at once- did nothing for me.
Posts: 4 | | Registered: Thu 10 Jul 2003 13:58 |
| | | "Re(3):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Wed 22 Oct 20:13
I just ordered some. Gee, this must be the most expensive 'OTC' stuff I've bought so far. Wait! It's not OTC. Although one can buy all sorts of antidepressants without any trouble, L-Tryptophan is quite hard to find.
So you say you take 1000mg a day?
Posts: 8 | | Registered: Sat 5 Jul 2003 19:32 |
| | | "Re(4):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Thu 23 Oct 11:00
Yes i take about 100mg/ day. I get it really cheap for like $12 for 4 ounces! a lot of tryptophan says its for veternary use because i think there is some law in the states that prohibates tryptophan except under a prescription. To order some u can go to http://www.buygpdirect.com/gpeultr.htm
Posts: 5 | | Registered: Thu 10 Jul 2003 13:58 |
| | | "Re(5):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Thu 30 Oct 14:14
Dear Matt: In reply to my previous message to you, the source to which you order your Tryptophan from, how did you find out it is a "Pure" 'High-grade quality, product before purchasing it from this place. It's so much cheaper than what I get from my naturopathic doctor, which is $40 for 2 ounces.
Thanks a bunch. Pauline
Pauline
Posts: 139 | | Registered: Wednesday 14 Mar 2001 10:59 |
| | | "Re(5):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Thu 23 Oct 12:54
Are you not at all concerned about buying an animal/vet grade product and it being inferior or not safe?
Posts: 0 | | Registered: Thu 23 Oct 2003 12:53 |
| | | "Re(6):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Fri 24 Oct 12:51
no im not, based on the fact that it is high quality, pure tryptophan. Also i have read several books ie Mood Cure, Amino Revolution which talk about tryptophan being an excellent natural remedy. It was banned in the US a while back because there was a bad batch that came from overseas. But the ban was lifted some time ago. Tryptophan is a natural Amino Acid that is just a basic form of food.
Posts: 6 | | Registered: Thu 10 Jul 2003 13:58 |
| | | "Re(7):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Sun 2 Nov 13:13
Hey Matt,
You said you took it for repetitive thoughts and social anxiety? I suffer from depression and social anxiety. I don't know which one came first, but I think sometimes my depression is based on my social anxiety.
Did tryptophan eradicate your social anxiety? If so, how bad was your social anxiety to begin with?
Thanks
Posts: 0 | | Registered: Sun 2 Nov 2003 13:12 |
| | | "Re(8):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Sun 2 Nov 16:59
Hey everyone, well about the tryptophan, I recently got a prescription and this tryptophan works the same as the veternary stuff that i got before! its amazing, and i dont have to worry about it being poor quality. My social anxiety and depression was really bad before. But the tryptophan has completely alleviated both and my confidence level has jumped from about a 2 to an 8.
Posts: 11 | | Registered: Thu 10 Jul 2003 13:58 |
| | | "Re(9):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Mon 3 Nov 05:27
Just curious, I was trying to figure out whether you are now taking the L-tryptophan from a prescription or the vet product from the web site that you recommended. You mentioned both and was trying to see whether you had started with the web product and them switched over to the prescription product or vice versa.
Weird question, I know - but just curious.
Missreddog
Posts: 8 | | Registered: Tue 8 Jul 2003 7:35 |
| | | "Re(9):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far!" , Sun 2 Nov 19:20
Hi Matt:
Need to ask,
questions: Do you take the 1,000mg. of tryptophan once a day only (at night) or in divided doses (2 times aday)
Thanks, PAR
Pauline
Posts: 145 | | Registered: Wednesday 14 Mar 2001 10:59 |
| | | "Re(10):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE so far" , Mon 3 Nov 18:08
Hi all, i take 1000 mg in the morning and i switched over to the prescription tryptophan, its been amazing. Anyone else try it yet?
Posts: 12 | | Registered: Thu 10 Jul 2003 13:58 |
| | | "Re(2):Re(10):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE" , Thu 20 Nov 21:00
Hey Matthhh,
I was wondering if you have noticed a difference between the Rx tryptophan and the one that you mentioned earlier from the Vet drug store? I'm currently taking 5htp but am strongly thinking about taking tryptophan instead however cost is a big concern for me. Thanks!
-Locri
Posts: 5 | | Registered: Wed 4 Dec 2002 17:1 |
| | | "Re(3):Re(10):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE" , Fri 21 Nov 05:41
The prescription tryptophan has been just as good as the vet. brand. Also 5htp did absolutely nothing for me
Posts: 14 | | Registered: Thu 10 Jul 2003 13:58 |
| | | "Re(3):Re(10):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE" , Fri 21 Nov 05:30
Posts: 13 | | Registered: Thu 10 Jul 2003 13:58 |
| | | "Re(4):Re(10):L-tryptophan has been a MIRACLE" , Thu 4 Nov 10:01
Hey matthhhh,
How long have you been using L-Tryptophan? Can u please update us regarding the progress you have been making with L-Tryptophan? Is it still having a good impact on your OCD?
Posts: 8 | | Registered: Sat 16 Aug 2003 12:1 |
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