Topic Title: Dissociation from Anxiety...will SJW help?
| |  "Dissociation from Anxiety...will SJW help?"
, Wed 8 Feb 13:51
I have started having anxiety since the beginning of January and started taking SJW the second week into it (since it was a 24/7 feeling of anxiety I was having, I was willing to try ANYTHING). I bought a bad brand of SJW (of course, not knowing at first that it was a bad brand), the Sundown brand, to be more specific.
Anyway, I then switched to Kira brand last week. The anxiety, I feel, is already lightening up but I have a very, very bad feeling of dissociation (an aspect of anxiety). I constantly feel like I'm in a dream (which sucks when I'm in social situations and sit there sort of dazed and confused about everything going on around me. It sounds funny, I know..but it's an extremely horrible feeling). I feel like I have no control over myself, my thoughts, my speech, or actions. I constantly have weird and sudden thoughts that just pop up in my head and I can't get rid of them! And I feel like I'm just not connected with reality anymore...if I didn't know I had anxiety, I'd swear I was either dying or going insane.
I was wondering, will SJW work on the dissociation from the anxiety I suffer from? I feel this dissociation 24 hours a day...every day. I know it takes a few weeks (at the least) for SJW to really be effective and fully effect your system, but I was just being curious about SJW curing this horrible disconnection from myself I've been feeling lately.
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| | "Re(1):Dissociation from Anxiety...will SJW he" , Mon 13 Feb 05:03
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The anxiety, I feel, is already lightening up but I have a very, very bad feeling of dissociation (an aspect of anxiety). I constantly feel like I'm in a dream (which sucks when I'm in social situati
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Hey kitty,
I experienced the same feeling almost a month ago now. Doktor told me I had a burnout . Which means u were stressed too much especially in a period of time before your burnout.
I know it feels really bad, i was scared too when i suddenly, from one day to another, experienced this. The first few weeks were horrible, no energy, no need for social contact, nothing, empty, took a lot of aspirine to feel a little bit lighter, i thought my brains didn't work anymore, and heavy breathing/ feeling on the chest.
U sure need a lot of rest in the beginning, avoid stressful situations, whatever people tell you .
Now its 6 weeks and stopped with the aspirine, don't need it anymore, seems like the most horrible symptoms disappeared ,
and started with SJW, i'll keep updated how that will work on me. I take Zibrine (425 mg) 2x a day.
U can check out a lot of burnout on the net, maybe it helps.
They say burnout is 90% caused by work : under qualified ( my case ) or over qualified, and so on ... )
Keep posting about ur progress I would say .
Alex
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| | "Re(1):Dissociation from Anxiety...will SJW he" , Thu 9 Feb 05:38
Dear kitty - I do understand what u mean about the dissociation, for anyone who has never experienced it themselves it is something that is impossible to explain. The feeling that you are not truly here - as you said as though you
are in the dream world. The way I could describe it as though I was in a swimming pool and I get back to the surface and my ears are full of water and everything sounds muffled and distant and as though everything is disconected from me by a barrier (though this is just one sense (hearing)and of course as you know it is every sense and perception that is affected but upon reading lots and lots and lots I have learned some of the reasons for it and some of the so called cures.
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| | | "Re(2):Dissociation from Anxiety...will SJW he" , Thu 9 Feb 07:43:
Thanks andrew_daniel! That is exactly how I have been feeling lately...and because of that feeling, I'm always second guessing myself. For instance, this morning I had to call and cancel plans I had today because I'm getting ready to go on a trip tomorrow and about 10 minutes after I called the person and cancelled, I thought to myself "Umm...did I REALLY call them or was I in one of my dream states again?" Also, maybe this is for just me, but I'm also pretty numb to feelings lately. Like, for instance, in happy situations, I'm not happy. In situations where I should be upset or have hurt feelings, I could care less.
But do you know if SJW cures this horrible aspect of anxiety? I'm truly hoping it does...
And if now, could you maybe share with me some of those "so called" cures you've read about?
[this message was edited by kittykathy on Thu 9 Feb 07:50]
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| | | "Re(3):Dissociation from Anxiety...will SJW he" , Thu 9 Feb 18:00
Hye kitty kathy
Yes the st johns wort will help in so much as it will make you feel better and stronger and more capable inside yourself it may
even take you all the way out and back to feeling whole, it certainly helped me a lot but I still had to make major changes in my life and still have to.
Your problem with feeling like you are disconected from reality can be overcome by changing how you breath, you will have read I am sure many places on deep breathing techniques etc ..... they are used for anxiety. I have read from a medical source in a book, but not online, that disconection from reality is caused by the wrong balance of oxygen carbon dioxide mix in the blood which then affects how much oxygen reaches the brain and how it allows to function, which if you think about it, makes perfect sense.
I personally have taken up yoga and do it in a class, it does teach how to breath correctly by using physical movement to make changes in how one breaths.
You could consider this as part of you efforts to return to full health, for me it was the one thing that has allowed me to rid myself of the dreamlike existence so it does work.
There is very little on this site that connects to yoga though there are one or two things and you do need to be in a class and taught how to do it.
As for the st johns wort it can't harm and can only help and who knows you may just feel better and better and that will be it.
Is kinda difficult to write much here in a small space but if you wish I can give you my email address if you wish.
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| | | "Re(4):Dissociation from Anxiety...will SJW he" , Sat 11 Feb 08:59:
Dear Kitty Khatty,
Hi!! I have read your posting in this site and it is wonderful that you have stated in detail of what you have been through. Am little bit new in this site. I have found it when I had my personal research of depression for myself. Because I heard that sjw and 5htp has curative effect on mood disorders but I didnt take those of any medicine, herbs or supplements until now, I just still study them to those who take it-up. I fear that this stuff will make me dependent to it once I have used them in time because the effect is limited and may vary to person on its effect. I admit that researching to this stuff give elevate my happiness, chances of hope and even reverse my mood especially reading the testimony of the posters in this site but still I feel the need for better, effective and long term effects of solution, a MEDITATION')
I know how hard to be in that feeling because I had experience that mood. I hope I can help in telling my story. I hope you will understand my grammar because Im not fluent English speaker; its the subject in high school that makes me sleepy, matching with boring teachers:) Im 26 now, I had ended-up my 4th girlfriend in last June 2005, we are 1 year and 1 months, my longest relationship and for now,I realize that I just need to prioritize my self first before going to relationship. You know, our break-up triggered my greatest depression in my whole life because I love her so much more than my own. She is my hope, my happiness, and my best friend at that time. Its very hard for me since I have introvert personality. I had my 1st girlfriend when I finished my study and had 2 friends when I graduate because of my personality. My last girlfriend is my life, and I never thought I can show my love in that way. My love for her is so immense that I respect her in all aspect that can you say. I felt so very much depress when we broke-up. I run for my last resort, my family for help but it didnt turn out as I expected. They didnt understand me, especially my mother, who scolded me instead because our relationship is hidden to then and even to my entire brother. Maybe my mother didnt experience what I have been undergone thats why she thinks that way:( Its the only thing that I know I could run too but more depression is only I get. On my last day of June, I resign my work, exile myself at my room and never talk to anyone, cry all the time, my eye bag are so large because I sleep only 2 hours on a whole day and my vision are blurred due to constant crying and my health are dangerously swinging down. I felt so meaningless at that time, frequently starring at my cell phone hoping that she will come back again. One day, news came in my cell phone that she had a new boyfriend that intensified my feeling, on the 1st tue of July, I decide to have suicide in my room, the rope has been prepared in our ceiling, writing my last letter to my family and 2 of my friends in college was finished. Im going to put it on my neck that suddenly the bible has dropped at the floor which I dont know how that happen. It was given to me by my oldest brother who once in the seminary. I randomly open the book and Ive read on LUKE 6:27. It instantly eases my feeling so I memorized that line when Im depress or fear in emotion. The next problem is on the sleeping issue. I tried to busy my mind so that I can sleep by search for treatment of depression in internet and bookstore nearby. I found that meditation will help and it did. At first I found discouragement because I didnt feel any good result but when I integrate the Buddhist meditation to Christianity, I found remarkable result. I realize that no one can help me but my own self alone. I also realize that the commonness of mental discipline and faith is that it is not inborn virtue but its like a seed in our mind that we must practice in order to grow. In meditation, I pause for a while, close my eyes and imagine the picture of Christ on the portrait in our church or on how he suffer and died while you are in smile position:) It helps me exercise my imagination. Also obsserve that my minds are more alert, sharp and spiritually matured. Its very helpful since I developed also a social phobia during my depression.
I am an ordinary person, and not much active in church. I dont have of command of words like yours but I have develop in myself a more convincing reason of TRUTH when things gets tough which I think a product of meditation. I recommend meditating together of your sjw, if you like, but I hope you will not be dependent to the stuff. Just try and you will see. If I have made it, why cant you. Just invest in your will:)
I am happy that my wish came true that someday I will had my first reply in this site. Lets cheers because I know you can do it...K
[this message was edited by reyhav on Sat 11 Feb 09:43]
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| | | "Re(5):Dissociation from Anxiety...will SJW he" , Wed 15 Feb 13:23
Alex, I think that is exactly what happened to me, with the "burnout". A few months ago it seemed everything that could have possibly hit me, hit me all at once. My brother, who I'm very close to, was deployed to Iraq. My first steady boyfriend broke up with me and was deployed to Iraq. A friend was talking about me behind my back. Then my brother was injured in Iraq from an IED explosion and my boyfriend who broke up with me wrote me a letter saying that when he gets back from Iraq, he wants to get together again.
I look back now and say "No wonder I got anxiety/depression (whatever it is)!" I am getting better now and my feelings of dissociation are still here, but are improving. Now it just feels like I've been left a broken person...like now that I'm finally better, I have to find myself again. I know it's weird, but that's how I feel.
I have been getting involved with my church lately and have re-aquanted with an old friend who is a great support for me. I realized that the best thing for me has been the SJW (of course!) and just talking to people...person-to-person. Talking online helps me too, but I feel better if I actually talk to someone.
Reyhav, I understand how hard breakups are, I can't say I've exactly been in your shoes with what you had to go through, but I definately understand the breakup thing. I'm so glad you're doing better though! If you ever need someone to talk to, just email me at [email protected] If we get to know each other more, I'll give you my cell phone number so we can actually TALK to each other about our lives and stuff. Don't feel weird, just email me up!
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