Topic Title: Dosage
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, Tue 9 Aug 06:19
I am currently mixing Amoryn with store bought SJW. I am trying to increase the dose to increase the time to take effect. I am currently taking 2 Amoryn and 4 Nature's own SJW. That would probably be like 3400mg total a day. Is that bad? I only plan on doing it until it is fully in my system and then just taking the Amoryn. I used to be on prescription antidepressants and this is the only amount that seems to have effect right now. Is there anything negative I can expect from this dose?
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| | "Re(1):Dosage" , Tue 9 Aug 22:36
Bill, this is bad! You're venturing into unknown territory. Please don't do this! The recommended dosage is 900mg. Even taking double is not recommended. Don't try to harm yourself, just give it some time. If you're taking four times the amount it's irresponsible and possibly dangerous, and doesn't have much basis in science either. In all my years of talking to people about SJW, back to 1997, I've never heard of someone taking 3400mg at once! How long have you been taking that much???
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| | "Re(1):Dosage" , Tue 9 Aug 17:34:
I don't think it's good. That is several times over the recommended dose and could increase the risk of serious side effects.
[this message was edited by FMacKay on Tue 9 Aug 17:38]
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| | | "Re(2):Dosage" , Tue 9 Aug 17:54:
I am currently taking 1800 mg of Kira a day, that's twice the recommended dosage. I think the doses that they recommend are ridiculously low and that is one of the main reasons why some people don't see any improvements with SJW.
But then again 3400 mg a day is a pretty high dose...I don't know what to say except that I personally wouldn't be afraid to try that dosage. I guess it's a personal risk that only we can chose to take if we want to.
In the most recent studies they started people on 45 mg hyperforin and after a few weeks they doubled it to 90 mg for non responders.For example 90mg of hyperforin=10 pills of Perika a day. That's 3000mg a day.
Oh and I also wanted to ask you, have you had any side effects on this dosage so far?
[this message was edited by robbiemerril on Tue 9 Aug 17:56]
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| | | "Re(3):Dosage" , Wed 10 Aug 06:33:
I have not had any real side effects as of yet. I take 1 pill of Amoryn in the morning with 2 300mg tablets of store bought SJW. Then in the afternoon I do the same. 1 pill of Amoryn equals 900mg)and 4 tablets of store bought SJW equals 1200 which in actuality is 3000mg a day of SJW. Amoryn says take 2 to 4 a day(4 being 3600mg if I understand right), which would lead me to beleive that the higher the dosage the better. Like I said I came off 20mg of a prescription antidepressant 2 weeks ago started taking 1800mg of Natrol store bought SJW, ordered Amoryn and started with this new regimen on Monday. The only effects as of yet are hazy vision about 45 minutes after taking it but that goes away shortly and it seems to keep me focused and not negativize(just like the prescription anti did.)
[this message was edited by Bill22 on Wed 10 Aug 06:39]
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| | | "Re(4):Dosage" , Wed 10 Aug 22:39
Actually a pill of Amoryn is 450mg SJW not 900mg (it's easy to get confused on the label), I know because I took it myself for six weeks. Amoryn supposedly has 5% hyperforin so four pills of Amoryn should replicate and go over the dosage that they used in the recent studies (they quote these studies on the Amoryn website).
You're probably taking less than 3400 a day, I guess you calculated one pill of Amoryn for 900mg SJW and this is how you came up with 3400 mg a day.
If I get this correctly from what you said then what you are taking is:
2 Amoryn=900 mg a day + 4 tablets store bought=1200mg a day should all equal 2100mgSJW a day (I was never any good at math :-).
Peace and good luck.
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| | | "Re(5):Dosage" , Thu 11 Aug 06:18
Your right. I just wanted to know if you go over the recommended maximum dosage of 1800mg, you are rendering the medication ineffective or more effective or neither. Because they never studied it in a higher capacity, how do we know it won't work as good or better than prescription antidepressants? Or if it will just work better at a higher dosage, like I'm taking to increase levels in the bloodstream and hasten SJW's action time?
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| | | "Re(6):Dosage" , Thu 11 Aug 14:49:
Like Kelly said it is uncharted territory, and because there are no studies to show the effects of higher doses, I guess the only way to find out is to try it out on yourself...if you want to. Would it be more effective over 1800mg? Nobody knows for sure...maybe, maybe not. Like I said, personally, I wouldn't be afraid to try higher dosages over a period of time to see what the effects are. The only bad side effect , from what they say, is photosensitivity and I didn't have a problem with that even though I live in sunny California and I have been in the sun after weeks of 1800 mg SJW a day.
About hurrying SJW's action time, there is no proof that if you "load up" with SJW for a while and then go with a steady low dose you will get the effects faster. I don't think it would work.
The answer to these questions can only be found by experimenting on yourself and at your own risk. I'm gonna post a new message in here to ask all the veterans what they think the side effects would be or what could possibly happen if you try high dosages for a period of time, maybe they have additional info.
[this message was edited by robbiemerril on Thu 11 Aug 14:51]
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| | | "Re(7):Dosage" , Fri 12 Aug 06:02
That's an excellent idea. Thanks!
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