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"after a month, I am back to the same" , Sat 21 May 19:34


(context: started taking SJW for social anxiety/low esteem/depression)

The first day I took SJW, I felt really good -- I mean really good, high in fact. I was giggly, and all the negative thoughts just seemed to have dissappeared. I felt my goals had problems, but hey the problems didn't matter.

Now, a month later of 2/day, I feel pretty much the same as before I started taking SJW. Same pattern of 2 good days, 2 down days; ruminating arguments with all significant others; goal problems are as large and as much a reason not to try as ever; the only logical solution to my permanent f-up is gasoline dowsing and start smoking; etc etc.

(I've long since learned I will have these feelings and thoughts, and they are routine and ordinary)

How do I get back to that first day of SJW? Was it a placebo, or do I need to increase the intake? I don't want to increase the inake very much because it gives me some bad constipation.

Or, dare I say it, was it a placebo, and SJW is not strong enough to do anything for me at all?


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"Re(1):after a month, I am back to the same" , Sun 22 May 06:50


I had an initial, within a day or two, very energizing reaction to both effexor and sjw. I have taken a myriad of other antidepressants with no similar reaction. I do not think this is a placebo effect, but am not sure what it is, and that euphoric feeling did not last. I ended up taking a very high dose of effexor which noticeably helped ward off the depths of depression for about three months, after which any effect was minimally noticeable.

The euphoric, too happy, feeling is not a good thing either, although it was a much welcome relief from the far ends of the other spectrum. I am optimistic about sjw. I don't know what brand you are taking, but in switching from Wal-Mart's Spring Valley brand (some positive effect which was not lasting) to Perika (3% hyperforin) I felt initially more energized and optimistic, but did not sleep well. I am currently taking Perika during the day (two to three tablets) and one Spring Valley in the evening and find I am sleeping better at night and feeling more energized during the day. I have not tried this combination long enough to know if it will continue to help. I think the hyperforin in Perika is, for me, energizing, the Spring Valley brand (not standardized for hyperforin, probably low) more relaxing, but also deadening, and alone it did not have a continuing good result for me.

I think the initial reaction you've had is a sign something in sjw might help, but you may need to tweak the dose, time you take the medicine or try adding a sjw brand which is standardized for hyperforin to the mix. Don't do all of these at the same time -- start with one change only so you know what is working and what isn't. It's discouraging to find yourself back where you seem to have begun, and I wish you well in finding the exact thing that works for you. Don't give up.


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"Re(1):after a month, I am back to the same" , Sun 22 May 05:31


I've been taking SJW for four and a half months, and I feel better than I've felt for a long time. All my anxiety and negative thoughts have gone away. It has not been plain sailing all the way though, and you will have some bad times on your way to feeling better. I strongly recommend that you persevere with SJW, as I'm sure you'll see the benefit in the long run.

Good Luck.


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