Topic Title: Does it work? I don't know
| |  "Does it work? I don't know"
, Thu 25 Nov 03:30
Hello,
This site is very good etc. Thank you all. Now here is my story:
I am a 38 yr. male and probably mildly depressed the better part of my life. Last summer was awfull, I stayed in bed days, left my household deteriorate, my personal and social obligations also. Posting a lettre took weeks. I lived on bread and frozen pizza's. So I started to look for clues on internet.
I diagnosed myself as 'depressed' by the following clues:
-no energy
-heavy limbs
-hollow feeling
-sleeping disorder, sleeping at day in some kind of haze. Sleeping at night to frequently wake up, anxious, sweaty, afraid
-hoping for some terrible accident to finish my life
That last thing worries me a lot and I probably should see a doctor. But he will probably prescribe pills and I want to stay clear from that as long as possible. I decided to try SJW. After 2 weeks I dragged myself to the herbist and brougt dried material, rather cheap.
I started drinking SJW-tea from morning to evening and thought to feel the benefit after 1 day already. One week later I felt very bad again, but I stayed on the tea. Than I found that my life started to revolve to much around the tea-sessions so now I swallow a heaped teaspoon of grinded SJW every day, with some water to get it down. I am on it for over 3 months now.
Does it help? Not really I am afraid. I still wake up every morning at 4.30 AM, restless, afraid. I still don't know how my day will be. I take a shower and go back to bed. Or, if I have enough energy, I start working on neglected obligations. I did find the energy to buy new SJW every 2 weeks and I did catch up with a few things, but that might as well be the season. Still, there is much wrong with my life and SJW did not help me over it till now.
Reading this forum and other fora, most people take SJW as a pill, normally 900 mg/day. I wonder what is inside a capsule? Is it the same, grounded plant that I use or is it some kind of extract? I take more than one gram each day, but it is not standarised and my contain less hypericum than needed. Pills are much more expensive and taking them makes me feel more of a patient.
One thing that did change over the months is that I am fighting to overcome my sorrow. I don't accept to feel as I do today. There must be a better life for me.
Thanks again for this rich, balanced site.
**Jackle
Posts: 0 | | Registered: Thu 25 Nov 2004 1:11 |
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| | "Re(1):Does it work? I don't know" , Thu 25 Nov 06:37
Dear Jackle,
There IS a better life for you, and you've already taken the first steps to finding it. I'd make two points by way of reply:
1. Although the way SJW works is not particularly well understood, its efficacy has been strongly linked with its Hypericin, and more recently Hyperforin content. I suspect SJW tea is not a consistent delivery method for either of these ingredients. Most reputable SJW brands will standardize SJW extract to contain Hypericin at 0.3% and Hyperforin at between 3% and 5%. Don't be put off by SJW in tablet form - there is NO stigma attached to taking appropriate and effective medication. See some of the info pages and other posts to get a feel for what brands are working for other folks. If your depression is severe it's a good idea to talk to someone you trust. Your doctor cannot force you to take a pill, but he/she may have some good advice to give. Don't suffer in silence.
2. Even good SJW brands at the correct dosage may take 4-6 weeks to work. Don't give up. If one brand doesn't work for you, try another, and have a look at other natural options discussed here. There's something out there for you.
Good luck & take care.
dfb
Posts: 1 | | Registered: Tue 26 Oct 2004 0:26 |
| | | "Re(2):Does it work? I don't know" , Mon 13 Dec 14:29
Hello group and hello dava_fozzy_bear,
I headed your advice and take pills now, tablets first and (cheaper) capsules now. I'll write about brand and dosage in another part of this forum, but shall write about my experiences here.
Does it work? Yes, it does work. Phew. It is quite a shift in perspective, looking out from your depression or looking at your depression from outside. I made some very different observations but here are the most prominent:
Sleep & dreams. Lots of them and dreaming of a very special nature. Very real, very detailed, very involved. Perhaps therapeutic in themselves, where I tried to clean the cobwebs in my house with a screwdriver. The big advantage to me is that I sleep continue sleeping till it's time to get up.
I feel happy to think about my past, my childhood days. They were merry and for years it wretched me to think about it, but now I can recall situations and feelings I had back then and feel happy for the kid I was then.
Lost and lots of saliva in my mouth (didn't see this mentioned with other people, only once or twice, but it's flooding)
People react diffenent to me. It's like I have been radiating doom for years and years and it made people cautious and silent when I was around. Now they seem happy to see me. I sometimes even indulge in small talk without loathing myself or the other.
So this is a succes to me and I will continue using SJW. Now that I know it does work, I'll start looking for a brand and a dose that I can afford and will write about that in the 'Brand' section of this forum.
Posts: 1 | | Registered: Thu 25 Nov 2004 1:11 |
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