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Topic Title: How much sjw and 5 htp to take?
Nikica

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"How much sjw and 5 htp to take?" , Wed 3 Dec 11:27


Hi all.
I've been taking sjw for 2 months now. I also started taking 5 htp 6 weeks ago. I was taking 3*100mg but switched to 3*50mg, because I was very fatigued.
I was taking 3*300mg sjw and also reduced it to 2*300mg.
I've read some opinions that these two may cause serotonin syndrome. I don't know what to take and how much.
I thing I may feel this fatigued from sjw. Maybe I should just take 5 htp?
Any sugestions?

Thanks,

N.
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"Re(1):How much sjw and 5 htp to take?" , Sun 7 Dec 16:30:


N.,

I'm not a fan of taking SJW and 5-HTP together unless there is a known serotonin deficiency. Is SJW working for your depression? That's the main thing. When did your fatigue start? Was it when you started taking SJW or when you added the 5-HTP? Or was it earlier than that? When do you take your SJW? I take 900mg all at night.

As for the 5-HTP, take a look at these sites:

http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshelf/substances_view/1,1525,747,00.html

http://www.umm.edu/altmed/ConsSupplements/5Hydroxytryptophan5HTPcs.html

I would suggest try taking your SJW (900mg) at night and drop the 5-HTP for now. If the fatigue continues, and the depression abates, trying lowering the SJW at that point in time and see what the balance is. See if the SJW how working for you first, then start adding additional substances.

Please keep us posted as how you are doing.

[this message was edited by Brucifer on Sun 7 Dec 16:31]


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"Re(2):How much sjw and 5 htp to take?" , Mon 8 Dec 08:52


Hey Brucifer,

Thanks for replying.
I started feeling fatigued even before I started taking sjw and 5 htp. I do feel better but it's still not how it used to be. I'm absent most of the time and have problems being present in reality. And this fatigue doesn't help at all. I would call it a derealisation of some sort.
I stopped taking sjw at night because I have problems staying asleep and I don't have a quality sleep. I read somewhere that it's good to take sjw 8 hours before bedtime so I decided to try this way.
If only there wouldn't be so many different information. I really don't know what to listen to anymore.

Thanks again for advice.

Nikki.


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"Re(3):How much sjw and 5 htp to take?" , Mon 8 Dec 16:50


Nikki,

It sounds like there is more going on than a straight depression. Are you seeing anyone professional for this? How is your diet? Is it a healthy, balanced one? How active have you been (before the fatigue compared to now)? The lack of reality perception is what really concerns me. Talk to you doctor about all your symptoms and when they started occurring. I would suggest a trial run of Sam-E, but if you happen to be bi-polar, it would only make things worse. If you do want to try it, take 200mg twice a day. If ANYTHING abnormal happens, STOP THE SAM-E!

Talk to your doctor. He's going to know your history better than me. He may prescribe meds that you might be unwilling to take, but there might be a more natural remedy that can replace them if that is the way you want to go.

Keep us posted on your progress.

Bruce


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"Re(4):How much sjw and 5 htp to take?" , Tue 30 Dec 14:32


Hi Bruce,

Actually, I do feel better lately, but it's not quite what it used to be. I'm not feeling anyone right now, because I don't want to go to someone that will immediately put me on meds. Derealisation is quite common with anxiety and depression, so I'm quite sure it is one of the symptoms. Anyway, if you think so much about what is going on in your head it is probably why I'm being absent most of the time. There is no medication for this as I managed to find out on the net. The only way is to cure anxiety and depression and not to think about it as many people do. It is so hard not to think about it when it tortures you.
Anyway, I do feel better. I take 3 sjw pills before bedtime and I stopped taking 5 htp as you suggested. The other thing is that the brand of sjw I take contains vitamin b6 and I've read that it's not good to take it with 5 htp. I can only buy this brand of sjw here in my country. Is it fine to take 5 htp and vitamin B6 or not? Do you know anything about this?
Thanks again for advice. Don't worry. I'm pretty sure that what I feel is a symptom of depression and I got it first after a period of really bad insomnia which induced panic attacks. I wasn't like this all the time.

I thank you for information. Take care.

Nikki.


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"Re(5):How much sjw and 5 htp to take?" , Sun 1 Feb 23:50


Ki Ora all from down-under (NZ). I've just popped my first SJW pill about 2hrs ago........so far so good! However I see everyone seems to be refering to a daily dose of 1000 mgms? is that correct? whereas the product I have just purchased ( RED SEAL-Extra Strength) is 3000mgm's. Hope I don't die over-night....mind you I should have a smile on my face. Any thoughts anyone? I only suffer very mild depression but don't enjoy the side-effects associated with Aropax(Prozac),incl. fatigue and sexual mis-functioning?? If this tiredness thing with SJW is similar to Aropax I'll be reducing the dose till it goes away......providing I'm still alive. I'll get my wife to let you all know if the unthinkable happens.

Cheers to all.

Graeme


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