Topic Title: My experiences with SAM-e, SJW, and DL-PA
| |  "My experiences with SAM-e, SJW, and DL-PA"
, Thu 13 Feb 14:50
Hi,
I have recently discovered this site. It seems people have favorably reactions to SJW.
About a month ago, I stopped taking wellbutrin. I quickly started up on 1200 mg SAM-e. I'm surprised by people saying they get a reaction out of 200. Actually when I just started the SAM-e, I was coming off of the wellbutrin, and even on the lower dosages of wellbutrin, just taking a little SAM-e gave me a noticable effect.
Well, its been a month on 1200 mg of SAM-e a day. I feel probably 70 percent better. So, still 30 percent not good, which is not good! So, two days ago I started taking 900 mg of SJW every night. Since then, I've noticed I've been more mellow and relaxed. But almost too much, because I can't seem to get the drive to do anything! This is not good because I'm a full time student, and I have just felt "dumb". Its almost like I feel more relaxed, but dingier. So, I also added DL-Phenylaline yesterday. I'm taking that 3 times a day , so total 1500 mg.
So:
1200 mg SAM-e / day
900 mg SJW / day
1500 mg DL-PA / day...
Has anyone ever experimented with it before?? As of right now, I just feel "blah" and not really stimulated to do anything. However, this could be the depression still in me. Maybe it will take a bit longer for the DL-PA and SJW to kick in.
-soar2thaclouds
Posts: 1 | | Registered: Tue 11 Feb 2003 10:6 |
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| | "P.S." , Tue 18 Feb 08:39
Funny, in the reply I just sent in response to your letter I used the term "drug ****tail" but the word "****tail" and it came out ****tail...Do be careful before popping all those "natural" supplements.
Posts: 92 | | Registered: Wed 25 Sep 2002 5:50 |
| | "You're taking TOO MANY "DRUGS" Be careful" , Tue 18 Feb 08:34
Hi: You're taking far too many "drugs" for your own good. How will you be able to determine which, if any of them, are doing the trick for you? Please be aware that because you can get this stuff in health food stores, without prescriptions, they are powerful drugs, especially when combined in such a "****tail" as you have described. No matter what you take, Wellbutrin, SJW,DLPA, SAM-E, etc., you can't expect ONE HUNDRED PERCENT relief from emotional stress...It's just not possible. Personally I had a rare but very bad reaction to SAM-E at just 400 mg. a day, so was forced to stop taking it. If SAM-E works for you, you should feel just fine with 400 to 800 mg. a day without all the other stuff you're taking. St. John's Wort has given good relief to many of us who take 3 or 4 a day and Phenylalanine itself has stimulant properties, but you shouldn't be taking that much of it either...If you insist on this preposterous "****tail", I urge you to have your blood pressure checked to be sure it isn't too high. There's been a LOT of research on SJW, which, in itself, is very safe, but when you COMBINE all those mind altering chemicals the way you're doing, you may be inviting trouble...If not just now, then in the future. Do be careful...These supplements are DRUGS, though they aren't controlled by The Food & Drug Administration. Again, how will you know which of these substances are helping, if you take SO MANY OF THEM? Be careful. As the anti-drug guys say, "A Mind is a Terrible Thing to Lose" (Ironically, pot is the least harmful of them all!)
Jeanette
Posts: 91 | | Registered: Wed 25 Sep 2002 5:50 |
| | | "Re(1):You're taking TOO MANY" , Tue 18 Feb 18:52
Well, marijuana might be the most harmful of the drugs, but it is still harmful. If you smoke it occasionally, very occasionally, your probably okay. But it does do harmful things to your brain if you do it regularly.
Posts: 4 | | Registered: Tue 11 Feb 2003 10:6 |
| | | "Re(1):You're taking TOO MANY" , Tue 18 Feb 18:47
Actually, a few days ago I decided to taking everything except the 900 mg SJW at night. The reason is because, like you said, how do you know whats working. Also, I thought that the other stuff could have been preventing the SJW from working. Well anyways, its been a week and 1 day, and I'm noticing the SJW is working. I don't feel 100 percent like I did on Paxil or whatnot, but I feel good.
It was interesting though, yesterday. I had taken 5 pills of SJW. Also, I took 200mg of SAM-e and 500 DL-PA. Between all those, I felt so good. I became almost manic. But it wasn't like out of control manic, it was just I did not go to sleep. I had a ton of energy.
Well, thats it...
Posts: 2 | | Registered: Tue 11 Feb 2003 10:6 |
| | | "Sounds like a good combination (Take 4 SJW)" , Wed 19 Feb 04:33
Hello again. See, even cutting down somewhat on the enormous amount of supplements you were taking has shown you that you needn't take that much to get good results. I find that taking FOUR SJW pills instead of three makes a lot of difference. That extra SJW helps you to sleep better and longer, in case insomnia is a problem. If you've added 200 mg. of SAM-e that might be alright, along with just 500 mg. of DL-PA. I don't know where you got your information about cannabis being such a terrible drug if used reasonably, not every day, but serious literature on that subject indicates you're wrong. Sounds like you've found an excellent, moderate combination of natural "home remedies" for yourself. Remember, it's not possible to feel 100% free of negative emotions, NOT IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT BUSH's evil PLANS TO BOMB IRAQ in a couple of week, inspite of world wide peace demonstrations and the fears of a nuclear holocaust. If you live in the USA, doesn't that thought affect you adversely?...I'm in New York City and when I think about it too much, it scares and depresses the Hell out of me! Good luck.
Jeanette
Posts: 93 | | Registered: Wed 25 Sep 2002 5:50 |
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