Topic Title: Just started SJW today and feel side effects
| | "Just started SJW today and feel side effects" , Fri 5 Oct 23:27
A little background about me first, I'm sensitive to my body and can pick up little changes from medication and other stuff. I have not been very happy for some time (but not 'sad' or suicidal I guess you could describe it as very flat in that I don't really take enjoyment from anything) and I recently started seeing a therapist. She's nice, but the 2nd time I saw her she said she doesn't like to recommend it but that in her 25 years of experience she thinks I should consider medication because if I don't I'll stay the way I am forever and suggested SJW as a possibility, someone else suggested Manerix or Effexor as possibilities which I didn't take them up on. I've had meds recommended to me before too from someone else. I was resistant because I'm afraid of side effects because I seem to get them. Anyways I figured what the hell let's try it. So I decided to try the SJW because I wanted something with relatively low side effects, so I did some research and bought some Kira brand (LI 160) which is German and was used in some studies.
My mood prior to starting this was very flat in that my head was not under pressure and I felt calm and relatively relaxed just very apathetic. So today I swallowed a tab, felt almost immediately weird in the head. Now that's got to be psychological. And it went away. But anyways, I've had 2 so far as I write this and I notice there seems to be more 'pressure' in my head and my heart is tending to beat faster esp if I move. I also notice that I can smell some of that sickly sweet sweat on my hands and a bit on my face that I associate with disruption of my body's electrolytes or something from drugs like coffee, and the like (which I don't drink). I also notice I'm starting to get a little depressed.
So what I'm wondering is, are these side effects that people experience that go away as I get used to it, or will I be faced with faster heartrate and a weird feeling in the head always?
Btw, I had a really bad reaction to melatonin a couple years ago and it vaguely feels a little the same but not quite. So I'm wondering what's up with me.
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| | "Re(1):Just started SJW today and feel side ef" , Fri 15 Mar 13:07
I was wondering about the head pressure. I notice a faint pressure or numbness at the lower back sides of my head, right behind my ears when I take an increased dose of SWJ (like when I first started, when I switched brands or if I take a dose late). I get this same weird effect when the dose I have taken has probably worn off completely (more than 24 hours past my last dose).
I would like to wean myself off of SWJ by taking my dose (time release capsules work best for me) less frequently, but this side effect, plus the mood effects and headaches I experience are making it difficult to cut back.
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| | "Re(1):Just started SJW today and feel side ef" , Wed 10 Oct 20:58
hi tech I just read the passage where you said the therapist you saw didn't like to prescribe meds and that if you don't take them you will stay that way forever? It sounds as though this person got their qualifications out of a weet - bix packet I'm afraid. It makes me think of when your mother told you not to pull faces unless the wind changes and you stay that way. Clearly also she has been reading too many of her medical journals to realise that whether she likes the idea of meds or not, if it makes you feel better and dosen't harm you then that is her priority.
sincerely soul_ee
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| | "Re(1):Just started SJW today and feel side ef" , Sat 6 Oct 23:36
I thought I'd reply to myself here.. Today is day 2.. my heart is more stable and is not bugging me as much as day 1.. I was browsing the forum here and I saw that Gretel complained about the fast heart thing too and that it settled down after 3 days of starting so I guess that's a good thing.
What I'm wondering now is, today and a little yesterday I've been feeling on and off twinges of anxiety and depression. While it's true that I do have something very much to be anxious about and I guess depressed, I had managed to get myself into an equilibrilium in that I didn't get 'sensations' in my brain of being blue or anxious much at all. I don't know at this time as I write this, if this is a trouble sign, or if it's one of those 'it gets worse first' deals.
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| | | "Re(2):Just started SJW today and feel side ef" , Mon 8 Oct 08:40
Hi Tech ! Keep posting ! If you like someone to talk to... I am at : alfa1omega3hotmail.com
Huffin Puffin...
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| | | "Re(3):Just started SJW today and feel side ef" , Tue 9 Oct 19:37
Thanks Alfa that's very nice of you to say. My email is in my profile so people can email me anytime they please if it pleases them to.
So, I guess it's time for an update. I'm getting used to all this, the side effects are all going away fast. Still some tension in chest but getting better fast as well. So how do I feel 4 days later? My observations:
A) Dreams are definitely more vivid and more weird. I mean what the heck is that b.s. I dreamed last night about Mr. Sulu from Star Trek being some sort of constantly drunk Boy Scouts scoutmaster in samurai gear?? Sheesh.
B) I feel a little baked as if I had been drinking or something the night before.
C) I *think* I can focus better, but I'm not sure. I can focus better on some things but I've also noticed I can't stand dealing with puerile crap tv or reading material anymore (or people that I didn't have much respect for).
D) This one is interesting. I'm constantly pissed off and angry. I want to punch the crap out of every moron I encounter, but of course I don't. I just stand my ground and talk directly to them with patience, even though I'd like to punt their head like it was a football. This part is interesting because last time I talked to my therapist she said that depression can be caused by anger, and I said something like well I don't think I'm an angry person I don't feel like I have a problem with anyone. And now here's all this bitterness bubbling up.. Not too cool. Oh well.
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| | | "Re(4):Just started SJW today and feel side ef" , Wed 8 May 22:37
loved your message about punching heads in. Yes, admittedly most people really are "frigging" annoying. Too often we mistake it as something be wrong with OURSELVES. Be assured, they are the idiots, not you. I'm surrounded by them in masses every day. I'm slowly learning to appreciate myself as being a generally more likeable person than most. I've stopped trying to deal with them as though they were okay people. They suck. Now that I've accepted that, I find them much easier to deal with. that's part of the problem with everybody that posts on this site - no offense. What I mean as that people suffering from anxiety, stress, or whatever probably keep too much bottled up. If your instincts are telling you that people are frigging stupid, you need to just trust your instincts. It is stuff like this that causes stress. I knocked a guy off his bike the other day for cutting people off on the sidewalk. I felt like a million bucks for it. Still laugh when I think of it. I probably shouldn't have knocked him out front of the bus however. That part I feel bad about.
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| | | "Re(4):Just started SJW today and feel side ef" , Sun 21 Oct 01:12
regarding: D)----ROCK ON! I hear you totally! But this is how I feel when I DON'T take my SJW. I frigging hate people and I too enjoy fantasizing about knocking them out. However, since I have started taking the SJW about a week ago, I am much calmer. I can deal w/ people's b.s. without contemplating their death. :o) I just go with the flow, and try to not let them bother me. Ahhh, much better!
Glad that your side effects are going away. I don't seem to be experiencing any, but that may be because I only take 1/3 of the dosage that is recommended. Good luck to you! -- Katlover
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| | | "Re(4):Just started SJW today and feel side ef" , Tue 9 Oct 23:31
About ANGER and FOOTBALL ,boy it really ease out my repressed anger which I thought I didnīt had .I īve been on football again after all this years and I īm feelling GREAT !!! Is so cathartic do you know the term catharsis or katharsis ?!Is definetly therapeutic !!! I felt the heat and warmth in my face during the first days with sjw. Hold your anger like holding a horse but sometimes let the beast run out free for awhile... just for...a while...awild !!!(sneaky)
By the way I couldnīt find your email in the profile ?!
Huffin Puffin...
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| | | "Re(5):Just started SJW today and feel side ef" , Fri 12 Oct 21:46
Hi there, well tomorrow will be a week taking SJW Kira.
Almost all the side effects have gone, including that of feeling angry. Some chest tension left, but that's probably cuz of anxiety due to being flat broke and having big payments coming up with zilch income.
It's only been a week, which is probably too soon. I must admit I feel kind of disappointed because it feels like I adjusted to it so fast.
I feel blah. I don't feel content or pleasantly buzzed. Then again I didn't get enough sleep last night and I also had a flu shot today. Etc.
My email is [email protected]
Man I wish I had cash. I liked going to the Y but had to stop for money reasons.
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