Topic Title: Nature's Resource
| |  "Nature's Resource"
, Tue 29 Nov 13:20
Hi,
Does anybody have any feedback to offer about "Nature's Resource" brand St. John's Wort? I was taking HBC Protocols sjw for a while but found it too potent for me (I think the high-hyperforin content made me moody/agitated) and I am hoping that Nature's Resource is milder yet still effective. Can there really be big differeces in responses to different brands? Thanks so much.
p.s. And thank you Kelly for creating this forum where we can come and search for information and answers!
Posts: 1 | | Registered: Mon 28 Nov 2005 10:22 |
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| | "Re(1):Nature's Resource" , Sat 28 Jan 12:00
Have been using Nature's Resource St. John's Wort for one month now.
I chose it because I saw it listed in "Hypercicum & Depression" by Bloomfield, M.D., Nordsfors, M.D. and Peter McWilliams,in the chapter "How to Obtain Research-Grade Hypericum". There are other brands listed, including, HBC and Kira. The book was printed in 1996.
Am very pleased with my regimen which has made my attitude much more positive and less introspective. I can now take the initiatvie in social actions instead of looking at myself with a microscope, so to speak.
This is what I have done which has worked for me:
Started out by taking a multiple vitamin and then one B-50 three times a day. This seems to have helped (70%)but not eliminate my introspection. Then I read that too much of certain B Vitamins is not good, but lots of others is okay.
Did some resarch on the internet regarding mild-moderate depression and some of what I now take is good for me regardless of its effect on depression.
This is the regimen which I am now taking which works for me:
a. One Centrum Silver(hey I am old) vitamin a day.
b. Fish Oil Concentrate (1000 mg): 1 capsule three times a day.
c. B-50 Complex & C: One pill a day.
d. Magnesium (250 mg): One pill a day.
e. St. John's Wort (Nature's Resource) 150 mg): Two capsules three times a day.
I am a much more happy camper then I was a month ago. Hope this helps.
I have suffered depression for most of my life and now feel somewhat renewed!
Posts: 0 | | Registered: Sat 28 Jan 2006 11:36 |
| | "Re(1):Nature's Resource" , Sat 3 Dec 01:19
Hi Samantha,
I've tried different types of SJW and like the liquid form from Bioforce. It works quickly and effectively but is mild. I don't get that wired edge like with some of the others. Also, there is a nice overview of natural supplements and how to add what/when here:
http://www.wholehealthmd.com/hc/resourceareas_supp/1,1442,453,00.html
Hope that helps.
Posts: 0 | | Registered: Sat 3 Dec 2005 1:8 |
| | | "Re(2):Nature's Resource" , Mon 5 Dec 08:35
Thanks guys for the feedback. I think I'm going to try the bioforce kind since that sounds like the mildest. How does the dosing work in a liquid formula? Do you know how many drops/ml would be comparable to 900mg in a capsule form? Thanks again.
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| | "Re(1):Nature's Resource" , Fri 2 Dec 15:33
Hi Samantha,
I understand Nature's Way actually has rather high hyperforin levels. I've read one of the main difference between Kira and Nature's Way is the level of hyperforin. Kira's hyperforin/hypericin content is more balanced. So if the hyperforin level is your concern, go with Kira.
Posts: 0 | | Registered: Fri 2 Dec 2005 15:25 |
| | "Re(1):Nature's Resource" , Wed 30 Nov 10:47
I just started taking SJW today.
This is the brand i have purchased.
I hope this helps.
Posts: 0 | | Registered: Wed 30 Nov 2005 10:45 |
| | | "Re(2):Nature's Resource" , Mon 5 Dec 11:45
i just bought the nature's resource brand. 2 caps have 300mg SJW and .9mg hypericin. it says to take 2 caps 3 times a day! looks like my $6 spent will only last like, 2 weeks. im going to just start out with 3 caps/day. could this be effective for anything?
Posts: 0 | | Registered: Mon 5 Dec 2005 11:42 |
| | | "Re(3):Nature's Resource" , Thu 8 Dec 09:53
Hi Samantha,
Sorry I didn't notice your question about amount until today. The directions on mine says 30 drops 3-5 times a day. I pour mine into an eye dropper type bottle with a queeze top. 1 dropper full is about 30 drops. I usually take 4 dropper fulls spread throughout the day or whenever I feel my mood starts to deteriorate.
Hope that helps.
Posts: 5 | | Registered: Sat 3 Dec 2005 1:8 |
| | | "Re(4):Nature's Resource" , Thu 8 Dec 12:21
Hi Silke,
Thanks so much for your help.
I ordered liquid bioforce sjw a couple of days ago and am looking forward to trying it. From what I can tell on the website, I don't think that this form of sjw is standardized at all - just pure herb. I too tend to feel sjw in my system rather immediately but the effects sometimes take several weeks to "even out." If you don't mind my asking, how long have you been on this brand sjw? You don't find that it makes you anxious/irritable at all? And I read on another post that you suffer from pms - do you think the sjw helps you with this problem? Thanks again for all your feedback and take care, samantha.
Posts: 9 | | Registered: Mon 28 Nov 2005 10:22 |
| | | "Re(5):Nature's Resource" , Fri 9 Dec 01:50
Dear Samantha,
I've been using the Bioforce for almost 5 months now. Its a little expensive where I live so now and again I've tried different brands of capsules, these usually make me restless and fidgety with anxiety at night. When I go back to the Bioforce, those symptoms go away and my mood stays good. I can still experience some of the PMS fluctuations during the month but they have become almost insignificant. I do take a good multivitamin, liquid B complex, vit. C and Omega 3 oil as well which seems to help but are nothing compared to the SJW. Well, I do have to say that if I don't take the C and B with the SJW, my mood does deteriorate so they do help.
On an interesting sidenote. The national drink in the country where I live is Aquavit. Its kind of like vodka but with a milder flavor. Many people here make their own "flavor" by steeping different herbs in it. Some friends of ours like to base theirs on SJW because it is also good for colds and sore throats. They had a bottle with them while we were on vacation together and since I had a bad cold, they insisted that I take a little shot at each meal, starting with breakfast (traditional here). It worked almost as well as the Bioforce. Interesting. Once summer comes around and I can get the herb, I might try making my own!
Posts: 7 | | Registered: Sat 3 Dec 2005 1:8 |
| | | "Re(6):Nature's Resource" , Sat 10 Dec 08:41
Hi Silke,
Well that's a positive review for bioforce. I hate that anxious/irritable/uptight feeling that some sjw products can produce yet I keep returning to it because I really don't want to have to resort to prescription meds. Just out of curiousity, what other brands of sjw have you tried?
I don't want to get my expectations up too high and everybody reacts differently to things, but I'm letting myself get a little bit hopeful about this brand sjw and am thankful that you alerted me to this alternative - I never would have thought of taking sjw in a liquid form and I certainly never would have come accross this brand (I live in the US and had to order it from a drugstore in England). So whether it works out for me or not, thank you.
I too supplement with omega 3s, b-complex and a multivitamin. I also take magnesium and calcium which helps quite a lot with anxiety/depression and I would recommend adding these minerals to your health regime if your multi doesn't contain adequate amounts (most don't). Well, I guess that's it for now. Best wishes, Samantha
p.s. That is intesting about the Aquavit. Are you by any chance currently living in Sweden? I am half-swedish and I know that that is a big drink there!
Posts: 14 | | Registered: Mon 28 Nov 2005 10:22 |
| | | "Re(7):Nature's Resource" , Sun 11 Dec 02:05
Dear Samantha,
I do live in Scandinavia but not Sweden. The brands I have tried are mostly unknown except for here in Scandinavian, plus I have tried one from England (Biovea). I just started ordering the Bioforce from England as well, its about half the price of here and shipping is free within the EU.
I usually take Magn/Calc but recently started leaving it out because of some conflicting info I have been reading regarding certain types of depression. But then again, I've been reading conflicting info on the Omega 3's too (EPA vs DHA). I should add the magn/calc back, the benefits certainly outway any questions.
I find the whole vitamin and supplement thing a bit overwhelming sometimes. It would be nice if more doctors were into nutrition and they could tell you exactly what you needed based on the type of depression you have. Since its up to me, everytime I read about something that should help, I cross reference/research it which means I unearth all the conflicting views as well and end up confused. It's difficult to know where to draw the line sometimes because one could end up taking handfuls of supplements and ending up with some very expensive pee!
Take care and let me know how it goes with the Bioforce.
Posts: 8 | | Registered: Sat 3 Dec 2005 1:8 |
| | | "Re(8):Nature's Resource" , Sun 11 Dec 17:32:
I know what you mean about getting overwhelmed with supplementation - it can be so exasperating and I too run into so much contradictory information in my researching. Sometimes I wish that I was just one of those people who just go to the doctor and take their prescribed antidepressant while being oblivious to the risks/long-term effects and get on with their lives (I have several friends who did just that and it was so simple).
It's not that I think prescription antidepressants are necessarily so bad but I had an unpleasant experience with one and I do think that they can be dangerous (or at least more dangerous than nat'l supplements). Anyway, despite all the frustration, expense, and trial and error involved with natural supplementation, I still think that it is an avenue worth pursuing and that synthetic drugs should be a last resort. I too wish that MDs were more educated about nutrition or at least that naturopathic doctors were more mainstream and accessible. But I think that as more and more drugs in both psychiatric and general medicine are recalled and long-term effects are discovered, even western medicine will have no choice but to turn to other modalities so maybe we are just ahead of the game.
Well, I'm kind of rambling now....I guess the bottom line is that we will never really fully understand the human body and nervous system and there will always be conflicting information. We just have to keep on trying to find our "magical formula" for health and be smart enough to know when to leave well enough alone. Take care, Samantha
[this message was edited by Samantha47 on Mon 12 Dec 15:27]
Posts: 17 | | Registered: Mon 28 Nov 2005 10:22 |
| | | "Re(9):Nature's Resource" , Tue 20 Dec 07:56
Hi Silke,
If you still check back here I was just wondering if you take the bioforce hypericum or the bioforce hypericum complex. The complex formula contains additional calming herbs but not as much st. john's wort extract as the straight hypericum kind. Thanks, Samantha
Posts: 19 | | Registered: Mon 28 Nov 2005 10:22 |
| | | "Re(10):Nature's Resource" , Tue 20 Dec 09:06
Hi Samantha,
I didn't realize there were two different types. I checked mine and it must be the complex. Its called "Hyperiforce" and has a few other things in it in addition to the SJW. The Hyperiforce might just be a Scandinavian name. Did you recieve your order? Which did you get?
Posts: 10 | | Registered: Sat 3 Dec 2005 1:8 |
| | | "Re(2):Re(10):Nature's Resource" , Tue 20 Dec 14:07
Well I ordered for both kinds thinking that I'd start with the stronger one and if I can't tolerate it go to the more calming kind. The stronger straight-st. john's wort kind arrived yesterday but fedex lost my order for the complex formula so they have to send another out. Anyway, my bottle does not say 'hyperiforce' on it but I'm pretty sure it is the same brand that you use. It says 'A. Vogel' (the name of the swiss naturopath who developed it) but it has a bioforce logo on it. Kind of confusing but I guess it can't be marketed exactly the same way in different countries - you might want to make sure that you are getting the correct formulation when/if you order for the English tincture.
I haven't done a ton of research on this brand but from what I can tell it is of very high quality. And both kinds of tinctures have been clinically studied and found to be effective. There have not been a lot of studies with this bioforce brand and the most significant one used the stronger version (except in the "tincture tablet" form), but this is still encouraging. Anyway, thanks for your reply and keep your fingers crossed for me! Have a happy holiday, Samantha.
Posts: 20 | | Registered: Mon 28 Nov 2005 10:22 |
| | | "Re(3):Re(10):Nature's Resource" , Thu 22 Dec 02:23
Dear Samantha,
Fingers crossed, I look forward to hearing how it goes.
Merry Christmas
Posts: 11 | | Registered: Sat 3 Dec 2005 1:8 |
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