Complete SJW confusion - http://www.sjwinfo.org Forums
Topic Title: Complete SJW confusion
| |  "Complete SJW confusion"
, Thu 21 Mar 06:31
I have only recently decided to start taking SJW and I have been completely bamboozled with the wealth of products that are on offer. I called into Superdrug and they had all sorts of different brands and prices with Kira being the most expensive. I then went to Holland and Barrett and ended up buying 100 capsules at 300mg and 0.15% hypercium. The recommended dosage is 3 capsules a day. However I just got home and discovered this forum and found that I should be taking 0.3% hypercium. Now I am totally confused!!
Also are the capsules any better than tablets or are they the same!!?? I myself would prefer tablets but Kira are just too expensive and if the capsules are just as effective then I don't mind taking that route.
Any help or advice anyone could give me would be greatly appreciated!
Posts: 0 | | Registered: Thu 21 Mar 2002 6:24 |
| |
| | "Re(1):Complete SJW confusion" , Sat 23 Mar 06:43
Thanks for all your help! I think I will see how I go with the 0.15% capsules and then maybe upgrade to 0.3% Quest Vitamins like David suggests. I don't think I would want to take 6 capsules a day!!!!
Can the Quest Vitamins ones be purchased from Holland and Barrett?
Posts: 1 | | Registered: Thu 21 Mar 2002 6:24 |
| | | "Re(2):Complete SJW confusion" , Sat 23 Mar 07:08
Hi again:
I wouldn't really relish the prospect of 6 a day either!!
I'm not sure if Quest can be brought from H&B because they have a tendancy (in my local one anyway) to really concentrate on selling their own brands of things....
I buy mine in 'Millenium Health' shops, although I'm unsure as to the number and distribution of outlets within this chain - I would reccommend trawling through a few health shops and I'm certain you'll find either Quest or something almost identical!
See you
David
Posts: 193 | | Registered: Sat 13 Oct 2001 17:39 |
| | "Re(1):Complete SJW confusion" , Fri 22 Mar 05:10
Hi there:
You are right that 0.3% is the 'normal' concentration of Hypericin (the active ingredient) in the tablets or capsules of SJW (or Hypericum by it's proper name). It's strange that even if the capsules are 300mg and 0.15%, it still directs you to take 3 a day....mine (tablets) are 333mg and 0.3% and I also take 3 a day therefore ostensibly getting double the Hypericin that you will.
I would say that it would probably be a good move to try to locate a brand which offers around 1000mg a day (split into 3 doses) and that is 0.3% (I just think that the SJW will get into your system quicker with a more discernable effect)....I'm guessing (because of the shop names you mention) that like me you are in the UK, and can reccommend Quest Vitamins brand of SJW which is 999mg daily (split into 3), 0.3% Hypericin and has really worked for me.
You should be able to buy it from most health food shops, or you can order it online (with free delivery) at The Quest Vitamins Site.
As far as capsules Vs tablets go, there is a post I have answered a few beneath this one about the same subject - take a look and hopefully it may answer your questions.
Give me a shout if you need anymore info!
David
Posts: 186 | | Registered: Sat 13 Oct 2001 17:39 |
| | | "Re(2):Complete SJW confusion" , Fri 22 Mar 13:32
quote:
You are right that 0.3% is the 'normal' concentration of Hypericin (the active ingredient) in the tablets or capsules of SJW (or Hypericum by it's proper name). It's strange that even if the capsules
...
David, I'm starting to think that the manufacturer's instructions on the packaging of most herbals need to be taken with a grain of salt. After all, what authority are they invoking when they decree "take 3 tabs per day"? The only authority that can exist is the clinical studies.
Half-concentration tabs (0.15%) can still be useful as a way of ramping up, and I see no reason why customers can't eventually ramp up past the bottle dose to, say, 6 tabs. But once the bottle was finished I would head straight to a full-strength formulation like your Quest.
Epyx
Posts: 86 | | Registered: Mon 3 Dec 2001 22:11 |
| | | "Re(3):Complete SJW confusion" , Fri 22 Mar 14:20
Epyx >-> After reading some of the stories posted on this site I'd be inclined to agree with you :)
I think that there is am almost universal culture of "oh it's only a hebal medication" or "relax it's herbal"....which in my submission is awfully bad form. Yes they are herbal, but so are the basis of some of the most dangerous drugs in existance.
I think that it is about time these companies employed slightly less of their resources in the finance and marketing departments and more in the research and development areas!! - although there are some good websites available, the research is virtually always slightly flawed, biased or subjective in a tiny way - even with a degree which isn't medical/chemistry/biology based, I can pick up on that!!
As for ramping up - I suppose that some (esp. those who generally are cautious or simply scared of any medication) may find it good to do this, but from a personal perspective, I know that when I was so depressed that I finally decided to do something about it, I read a few research sites for dosage info. and then tried to locate a brand which delivered a dose of Hypericin which was in the upper quartile- I wanted it in my system and active ASAP!!!!
Chin Chin!
David
Posts: 190 | | Registered: Sat 13 Oct 2001 17:39 |
| | | "Re(4):Complete SJW confusion" , Fri 22 Mar 14:32
David, that's exactly the same thing that bugs me. This whole idea of palliative words like "herbal" and "natural" has created a dangerous culture of mixing meds. I won't say more because I'll just end up paraphrasing your excellent spiel on the topic.
Interesting point about flawed research. I notice the same things too. I would like to learn a little more about stats and assessing statistical significance though.
Re SJW: I did like you, I went straight to the top shelf ... I couldn't stand being depressed any more! 
Epyx
Posts: 88 | | Registered: Mon 3 Dec 2001 22:11 |
|
|
|
post new
search
register
FAQ
email/admin
forum index