SJW vs. Valerian Root for a teenager? by p-m-m +7 replies [Archive]

Kelly

3rd April, 2006, 02:11 AM

24 June 2004

Topic Title: STJ vs. Valerian Root
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p-m-m </td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "STJ vs. Valerian Root" , Thu 24 Jun 11:20<HR SIZE=1> My 13 year old daughter has always been difficult - high strung and tempermental. Doctors and teachers say she isn't ADHD, but I feel puberty has brought on mild depression, more than just cyclical pms. I think either St. Johns Wort or Valerian Root may be helpful. Does anyone recommend one over the other, and why? THX!

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<table width=100% cellspacing="1" cellpadding="5" border="0"><tr> <td width="26%" bgcolor=#eeeeee valign=top> <table width=100% cellspacing=0 cellpading=0 border=0><tr valign=top><td align=left><IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/male.gif" alt="Im a Guy !">Kelly Moderator <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/Scooter.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> Home Page <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/home-1.gif" border=0> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(1):STJ vs. Valerian Root" , Thu 24 Jun 14:28<HR SIZE=1> Valerian Root is often used to calm people and help them sleep. Seeing as it's the less medicinal of the two (in my opinion) I would certainly start with that one only -- especially because your daughter is only 13. That's a pretty young age to try and diagnose her with depression, especially when there are so many other factors involved with teenagers: PMS (for girls), other aspects of puberty, social conditions at school, and lots of others. I would hate to see her taking SJW and regretting it (and possibly, you giving it to her) later in life. I would also highly recommend counselling over the use of any drug at this point except on the advice of a doctor. Best of luck.

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p-m-m </td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#eeeeee> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(2):STJ vs. Valerian Root" , Mon 28 Jun 12:52<HR SIZE=1> Why would she regret taking STJ? Are there side effects that I'm not aware of? Are there long term problems with taking it. I thought it was pretty harmless. My understanding was that Valerian Root, in addition to being helpful for calming and sleeping, was that it helped settle down nervousness & hyperactivity, and was considering trying it on my ADHD son as an alternative to Stratera.

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D_alien </td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(3):STJ vs. Valerian Root" , Mon 28 Jun 19:53<HR SIZE=1> I was reading this post and wondering the same. I would agree that Valerian should be used first though...maybe the effects of someone taking SJW who shouldn't ideally be taking it are more noticeable??

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D_alien </td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#eeeeee> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(5):STJ vs. Valerian Root" , Tue 29 Jun 00:34<HR SIZE=1> Sounds wise Kelly. I guess I hadn't thought of those implications. There's definitely a worrying tendency in our societies to over prescribe medicine to children... can't help but think it's treating symptoms rather than acting as a real cure, or even worse, some attempt to somehow 'normalise' individuals who don't fit into a predefined mould. Great site by the way! Daniel

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gpg </td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(6):STJ vs. Valerian Root" , Tue 29 Jun 17:01<HR SIZE=1> Excellent points kelly and daniel... But there are some mds that are prescribing ssri to children of that age. If you get to the poing where a md wants to prescribe an antidepressant, I would try st johns wort first for sure....

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