cope with life... by chulina (8 replies) (Jan 8, 2001) [Archive]

Kelly

5th February, 2006, 09:46 PM

Topic Title: cope with life...
<table width=100% cellspacing="1" cellpadding="5" border="0"><tr> <td width="26%" bgcolor=#dddedd valign=top> <table width=100% cellspacing=0 cellpading=0 border=0><tr valign=top><td align=left> chulina <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/faces/BettyBou.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#eeeeee> <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "cope with life..." , Monday 8 Jan 05:57<HR SIZE=1> Hi, If SJW works to heal depression How do you cope with the other aspects of life that make you depressed? I mean, you are changing chemicals in your body but you are not changing your life and there wiil always be things in my life that will make me very unhappy.Is SJW tha answer ? I don't understand it. After 4 weeks taking it I don't feel any improvement, but that's not what I'm worried about. I'm worried about what happens with your life when you stop taking it. Does it all become horrible and umbereable again? Please can anyone help me to understand this, Thanks.
 Natalia
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<table width=100% cellspacing="1" cellpadding="5" border="0"><tr> <td width="26%" bgcolor=#dddedd valign=top> <table width=100% cellspacing=0 cellpading=0 border=0><tr valign=top><td align=left> chulina <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/faces/BettyBou.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#eeeeee> <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/icons/thumbup.gif"> "Re(1):cope with life..." , Wednesday 10 Jan 08:23<HR SIZE=1> Thanks Chris, Abitshy and Kelly for your replies. I think it's quite interesting what Abitshy says, that in orther to change my life I have to feel up to it and well enough to feel that I can change. And what you say Kelly about having both sides of depression, I think it's true. Although, I have had depression since as far as I can remember and it seems impossible to me that I could get better with a herb because that won't change ME and ME means the way I think and feel. I don't know if you understand. But defenetely I am trying SJW untill I feel a change and won't give it up. I hope it will make me get better and then I will be able to start changing my life and my thoughts. It really helps to read this site and find that I am not an alien. Thanks for your help all of you. See you around the site.
 Natalia
<HR SIZE=1>Posts: 2 | | Registered: Thursday 4 Jan 2001 17:1</td></tr></table>
<table width=100% cellspacing="1" cellpadding="5" border="0"><tr> <td bgcolor="" width="6%"> </td><td width="20%" bgcolor=#dddedd valign=top> <table width=100% cellspacing=0 cellpading=0 border=0><tr valign=top><td align=left><IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/female.gif" alt="Im a Girl !">abitshy <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/faces/BumbleBee.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(2):cope with life..." , Friday 12 Jan 23:46<HR SIZE=1> I'm really glad to hear you're giving SJW a go! The ways one thinks and feels are very much part of them *but* these parts are also very much open to change (thank goodness!) <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/emoticons/smile.gif"> Let me know how you're making out!

<HR SIZE=1>Posts: 30 | Location: Haileybury Ontario Canada | Registered: Wed 11 Oct 2000 17:15</td></tr></table>
<table width=100% cellspacing="1" cellpadding="5" border="0"><tr> <td bgcolor="" width="10%"> </td><td width="16%" bgcolor=#eeeeee valign=top> <table width=100% cellspacing=0 cellpading=0 border=0><tr valign=top><td align=left> chulina <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/faces/BettyBou.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(3):cope with life..." , Saturday 20 Jan 11:00<HR SIZE=1> Hi abitshy. I have given it a try for about a month now. Last week I felt really good and I think for 3 or 4 days I was really happy and I thought "That's it! It's working! " But then after those day I have started feeling really down again. I can't even go out or go to work and I'm running out of excuses. I am going to the doctor in about 3 days and hope that will do something for me. It's the first time I talk to a doctor about it and I am quite scared. Well. I still take the SJW, although I think I might change brands. Thanks for your advice, keep in touch, Chulina
 Natalia
<HR SIZE=1>Posts: 3 | | Registered: Thursday 4 Jan 2001 17:1</td></tr></table>
<table width=100% cellspacing="1" cellpadding="5" border="0"><tr> <td bgcolor="" width="14%"> </td><td width="12%" bgcolor=#eeeeee valign=top> <table width=100% cellspacing=0 cellpading=0 border=0><tr valign=top><td align=left><IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/female.gif" alt="Im a Girl !">abitshy <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/faces/BumbleBee.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#eeeeee> <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(4):cope with life..." , Tuesday 23 Jan 04:06<HR SIZE=1> Hey Chulina, sorry to hear you were feeling better but then took a turn in the other direction. That's frustrating! Sometimes it takes over four weeks for the full effects of SJW to 'kick in', I'm glad to hear you're not giving up on it! On brands, I've learned to stick to my favorite; I switched once and felt as though I wasn't taking SJW at all. Back on my trusted brand since then, I still have down days but they're not nearly as bad as they used to be, as in I can see through them and know they'll go away as opposed to taking me over. That's a relief in itself. Let me know how you're doing...

<HR SIZE=1>Posts: 31 | Location: Haileybury Ontario Canada | Registered: Wed 11 Oct 2000 17:15</td></tr></table>
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Chris </td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#eeeeee> <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/icons/biggrin.gif"> "Re(1):cope with life..." , Tuesday 9 Jan 10:45<HR SIZE=1> I took SJW for about 2 years, after a prolongued depression treated with good ol' "talk therapy". Insight, yes, but smiles, no... SJW worked wonderfully well. My depression really turned around. After 2 years, I felt that I had built-up my life and infrastructure as to be able to negotiate any subsequent bouts of depression without SJW. I distincly remember that when I went off it, it wasn't particularly jarring. I felt strong and happy, and really didn't miss it. But then I had some very depressing real life events happen (bad relationship, break-up, etc.), that kind-of overpowered my coping mechanisms. On one hand, I felt like I had in a sense "failed" to be able to cope without the dependence on SJW. That attitude was not helpful, so I've begun to think of SJW as a way to steer the broader "tides" of my emotional life, and I'm cool with that. Once I'm feeling up to it, I'll probably go off it again, for as long as I don't need it.

<HR SIZE=1>Posts: 0 | | Registered: Tuesday 9 Jan 2001 10:32</td></tr></table>
<table width=100% cellspacing="1" cellpadding="5" border="0"><tr> <td width="26%" bgcolor=#dddedd valign=top> <table width=100% cellspacing=0 cellpading=0 border=0><tr valign=top><td align=left><IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/female.gif" alt="Im a Girl !">abitshy <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/faces/BumbleBee.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(1):cope with life..." , Monday 8 Jan 23:41<HR SIZE=1> Hi chulina, you're totally right in saying that SJW (or any type of anti-depressant, really) changes chemicals in your body but doesn't change your life. But I have truly found that SJW has helped me stay in the frame of mind I need to be in to deal with life, and I'm confidant saying that a better perspective leads to a better life. I've had a few experiences being off SJW and have found I've become depressed again, though I don't worry too much about staying on an herbal remedy. Good luck with SJW, and keep us posted! <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/emoticons/smile.gif">

<HR SIZE=1>Posts: 29 | Location: Haileybury Ontario Canada | Registered: Wed 11 Oct 2000 17:15</td></tr></table>
<table width=100% cellspacing="1" cellpadding="5" border="0"><tr> <td width="26%" bgcolor=#eeeeee valign=top> <table width=100% cellspacing=0 cellpading=0 border=0><tr valign=top><td align=left><IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/male.gif" alt="Im a Guy !">Kelly Moderator <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/faces/Scooter.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="/forums/graphics/icons/book.gif"> "Re(1):cope with life..." , Monday 8 Jan 20:15:<HR SIZE=1> I think the answer lies with something that only you can figure out: to what extent is your depression caused by external factors (your environment and the way you live your life) versus internal factors (such as some sort of chemical inbalance in your brain that does not allow you to be happy)? I think it would be foolish to strictly consider only one of these two factors as the sole cause of depression. Maybe for you it is a bit of both? Maybe it is, to some extent, a bit of both for all of us? I have met people who have lived in denial for years. Maybe they refused to believe that they suffered from depression depsite what eveyrone around them said, until one day they finally break down. It can be a surprisingly comfortable yet unhappy place to be. You can spend all your life taking drugs and still not be happy; conversely you can spend all your life trying to fix the broken pieces and directions and environmental factors in your life and still not be happy. That's my take on it. Maybe you really need to take a look at your life and try to work on both.

[this message was edited by kelly on Monday 8 Jan 20:17] <HR SIZE=1>Posts: 200 | | Registered: Thu 5 Oct 2000 21:48</td></tr></table>
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