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Kelly

19th February, 2006, 04:52 PM

Feb 16, 2003
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Sonic <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/Sonic.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/smile.gif"> "Experience of Rhodiola Rosea" , Sun 16 Feb 10:10<HR SIZE=1> I have tried SJW many times and although it has made me feel relaxed and reduced nervousness, it has never really made me any happier, in fact making me duller! However, for the past 3 weeks I have been taking a herb called Rhodiola Rosea which is anti-stress and anti-depressant and in research is thought to increase the levels of the neurotransmitters Dopamine, Serotonin and Ephinephrine, support the nervous system and normalise body systems. I have felt more relaxed, happier and have lots more energy, which SJW seemed to sap. I take 250 mg a day of Solgar brand. Migraines, Lethargy, Fatigue and moodiness has been eased greatly, and nightmares of traumatic experience have been reduced. Medicines like this can help you to feel better at times of stress (Ive just started uni and the pressure is quite hard) but it is Pyschotherpy that will heal and make long term differences, no matter what the problem. I suffer with Post traumatic stress disorder anxiety and depressive symptoms, but I can see a way out now! its also important not to label yourself, becuase it doesnt help at all- we are all just suffering symptoms. I just thought I would share this experience with you for those of you that SJW didnt help, and good luck to you all.
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Nicholas </td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(1):Experience of Rhodiola Rosea" , Tue 18 Feb 08:17<HR SIZE=1> do you know if its possible/safe to combine Rhodiola with SJW?

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Sonic <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/Sonic.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#eeeeee> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/alert.gif"> "Re(2):Experience of Rhodiola Rosea" , Thu 20 Feb 04:52<HR SIZE=1> I dont know but I wouldnt mix two together personally. Decide which one seems to work best. Good luck

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Nicholas </td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(3):Experience of Rhodiola Rosea" , Fri 21 Feb 02:54<HR SIZE=1> have you had any experience of Rhodiola...im currently taking sjw for about a week. at the moment i find it seems to come in waves...fell pretty low and ****ty in the morning and then perk up as the day goes on...i take one in the morning then one in the afternoon and then one when i go to bed. i ve lost my appetite too a little. its 500mg tabs. i used to tkae fluxotine which i found very effective but obviously i want to avoid going back to them if i can...i was fine for about 6 months but after certain circumstances i`ve seen the signs of depression coming back and thought i woulkd try sjw. thanks for your help n

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Sonic <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/Sonic.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/smile.gif"> "Re(4):Experience of Rhodiola Rosea" , Sun 23 Feb 04:57<HR SIZE=1> Are you asking me how it feels? I have loads more energy with Rhodiola, SJW made me less nervous, but instead dull to think fast and talk. Rhodiola seems to speed me up without having insomnia, in fact I drift off to sleep pleasantly! I suppose everybody can feel a little groggy in the morning but Rhodiola helps me to get out of bed and get working. My feeling s with it are optimistic and contentendeness, and the creativity and energy to start working. It has helped me a great deal. Try SJW for 6 weeks, gradually upping the dosage, then if it doesnt help you, try Rhodiola at 250-500mg. Hope this helps

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Kelly

19th February, 2006, 04:58 PM

Topic Title: Sonic, Your Update with Rhodiola?
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Kelly

19th February, 2006, 04:58 PM

Topic Title: Rhodiola Rosea update
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Sonic <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/Sonic.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/smile.gif"> "Rhodiola Rosea update" , Wed 26 Feb 10:53<HR SIZE=1> Hi Soar2theclouds. Rhodiola doesnt dull my concentration at all! In fact, its really helping me think, concentrate and get on with my life. Im studying Art and Design. Im having to do research reports and work with design mathematics at University level when I came form a Fine Art (painting etc) background and Im doing brilliantly at the moment-so much energy! I got an A in one of my essays today!!! I hate maths!!! The biggest component in my depression is the physical level- motivation and energy. Not because Im lazy just knackered from worrying and stress. It has been suggested in studies that Rhodiola raises Dopamine and Noradrenaline, the chemicals associated with motivation. Ill try and find a link to an excellent Phytomedicinal Overview document I found on the net and post it here. Rhodiola stimulates serotonin production which stimulates all the cortexes of the brain and promotes happiness and calmness. It may also increase insulin in the blood to provide more energy. It is also an adaptogen which normalises the body during panic and after (stress systems). Ive been finding that my moods and dull "I cant think!!!" headaches have disappeared. Social anxiety is more of a purely pyschological component. I suffer from it too. A book that may help you is called Overcoming Social Anxiety by Gillian Butler, which works in a Cognitive Behavioural way with worksheets to help you re-program your negative beliefs. For example, no Drug or pill will make you talk French. You have learnt a pattern of thoughts which is unuseful in social situtions, your aim is to now re-program those thoughts, or learn another language (French)!!!. This book changed my life. It sounds difficult, but it will change your patterns and hence brain forever with hard work and time, which unfortunately, a pill will never do. Not even Paxil, which I also tried. Rhodiola has helped with the nervousness and agitation and panic in social situations, deffinetly though. Give SJW a few more weeks, its worth it. If you need any more advice or help just ask, Id be pleased to help!! Best of Luck.

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Renaissance <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/Rajah.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/smile.gif"> "Re(1):Rhodiola Rosea update" , Fri 7 Jan 22:02<HR SIZE=1> Dear Sonic, I came across yur thoughts on Rhodiola. Is it possible that we could talk soomehow, as i have been in a right state of exhaustion, and i would like to talk to you basically, about mine and your own situation. Share experiences basically... How much impact do you think that Rhodiola has had on your energy, attention, and motivation? What dose? And how long til you noticed any effects?? Im from England by the way- where are you from?? I hope to hear your reply very soon, Thanks and best wishes, Renaissance.

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soar2thaclouds <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/sun.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#eeeeee> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(1):Rhodiola Rosea update" , Wed 26 Feb 14:06<HR SIZE=1> Hi, How come you didn't take St. John's Wort. I think its starting to work, but I'm feeling dingier. Its making it hard to concentrate in Uni. I was wondering at what time of day you take RHodiola. Does it interfere with your sleep at all? Also what brand..? If you have ever gotten good effects from anti-depressants before, does Rhodiola make you feel the same way? I also suffer from that lethargy, no motivation thing. It sounds like this is what I need. In a sense of urgency, yesterday I went and bought the Solaray brand of Rhodiola. Its 100 mg tabs with 1% each rosavins and salidrosides minimum. What kind are you taking?? Also, how long did it take to work?? Thanks, -Soar

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Sonic <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/Sonic.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(1):Rhodiola Rosea update" , Wed 26 Feb 11:03<HR SIZE=1> http://www.herbalgram.org/wholefoodsmarket/herbalgram/articleview.asp?a=2333 This is the link-its a very interesting and promising medicinal analysis of Rhodiola Rosea. Ps Im taking 250mg a day now-and feeling great!!!!

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soar2thaclouds <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/sun.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(2):Rhodiola Rosea update" , Wed 26 Feb 23:51<HR SIZE=1> Oh also, I was wondering if you feel emotions or feelings on the Rhodiola Rosea. I seem to be numb on St. John's Wort. It could just be the depression though.

<HR SIZE=1>Posts: 15 | | Registered: Tue 11 Feb 2003 10:6</td></tr></table>
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Sonic <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/Sonic.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#eeeeee> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/thumbup.gif"> "Re(3):Rhodiola Rosea update" , Thu 27 Feb 04:41<HR SIZE=1> I seem to have balanced and rational thoughts and feelings, and very calm but ready for things. I feel happy, content and warm inside. In my opinion, it compares to a mild Paxil; Paroxetine, without the fake confidence and inability to stop rambling on like that stuff. You may not be feeling the effects of SJW as comparable to Paxil because you may not be as CLINICALLY depressed as when you started taking the Paxil. You are not in the same depressed place(i.e chemical imbalances), but your thinking from your experience tells you you are. Just like when you panic, but there is nothing to panic about in reality. I know how you feel and understand your feelings and sensations though. Give it go. I take it in the morning. And it took a week or two for it start working. I got some slightly funny headaches to start with, and now theyve disappaered, 3-4 weeks on and Im feeling top.

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Sonic <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/Sonic.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(3):Rhodiola Rosea update" , Thu 27 Feb 04:28<HR SIZE=1> I have taken ST Johns Wort, it just made me numb and emotionless, like when I tried Prozac. I have tried all the SSRIs and all the Tri-cyclics and none of them worked as well as Rhodiola for me. The brand I take is Natures Plus Rhodiola 250mg 2.8% salidroside, 70% Polyphenols, 2.3% rosavin,5.4% beta-vivianosides,1.4%rosin, 1.2 rosarin. I take 1 a day. I havent noticed an effect wether I take it at night or in the morning, unlike SJW or other anti-depressants. The feeling is quite content, quietly confident and happy and balanced, but with loads and loads of energy! My sleep is good and I awak refreshed. Im trying not to hype it up in case it doesnt meet your requirements, but give the SJW a little longer and then try rhodiola. DONT MIX THEM: otherwise you wont know which will help, and together they will not help. Good Luck

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mmumford </td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(4):Rhodiola Rosea update" , Tue 4 Mar 07:34<HR SIZE=1> Sonic, I used to post at this site last spring and early summer, but eventually stopped the SJW and went to Paxil CR. I have been on Paxil CR since November and it is working for my panic and depression. I noticed a lot of good talk about Rhodiola Rosea and wondered if it is truly helping people. Also, can you take it at the same time as Paxil. I do not see ANYWHERE that says no. Matt

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Sonic <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/Sonic.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#eeeeee> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "read this." , Thu 27 Feb 14:24<HR SIZE=1> R. rosea may affect emotional tone by influencing neurotransmitter monoamine levels (NE, DA, 5-HT) in nerve tracts involved in the regulation of mood, anxiety, and emotion in the amygdala, hippocampus, hypothalamus, and midbrain. The stimulation of nicotinic cholinergic activity in the emotional circuits of the limbic system (in the temporal lobe) may also contribute to these effects. Alterations in monoamine levels underlie this complex spectrum of psychotropic activity: stimulating, tranquilizing, anti-stress, and antidepressant. The authors have found that R. rosea can help patients with depressive syndromes, mental and physical fatigue (secondary to psychiatric and medical conditions), memory loss and cognitive dysfunction from a variety of causes, sexual dysfunction, and menopausal-related disorders. Dr. Brown and Dr. Gerbarg have successfully treated more than 150 individuals with R. rosea extract (3 percent rosavin and 1 percent salidroside) and have supervised the treatment of more than 100 additional cases (See Case Studies). NE-Noradreanline DA-Dopamine 5-HT Serotonin Taken from Rhodiola Rossea:A Phytomedicinal Overview.An American Botanical Council Journal. Copyright Whole Foods Market 2002

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mmumford </td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(1):read this." , Mon 7 Apr 13:38<HR SIZE=1> I wonder if you can cause Seriton Syndrome mixing it with SJW or a prescrip SSRI? Anythoughts? Matt

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Kelly

19th February, 2006, 05:02 PM

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sonic <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/Sonic.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right> </td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/smile4.gif"> "Re(1):Here's my update on Rhodiola, and you S" , Tue 4 Mar 14:27<HR SIZE=1> Glad your feeling better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! At the mo ive got glandular fever and on anti-biotics and under loadsa stress at uni, so I aint too hot!!!!!!!!!!!!! But through it all I feel really happy and balanced now. Definitely less shy, like you. ive been noticing this lately. Ill update in a couple of weeks when I feel better. I fell ok though, just knackered cos of this bloody virus!!!!

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