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Kelly
19th February, 2006, 04:40 PM
Feb 6, 2003
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worthless</b></font><br><font size=1></font><br></td><td align=right><font size=2> <!--<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/ip1.gif" border=0 ALT="205.188.208.171 "><br>&nbsp;Profile&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/profile1.gif" border=0 alt="user profile"><br>&nbsp;Edit/Delete&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/edit1.gif" border=0 alt="edit/delete message"><br>&nbsp;Reply&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/email2.gif" border=0 alt=--></font></td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <font size=2 color=red><p><IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Started SJW today" </FONT><font size=1>, Thu 6 Feb 18:52:</FONT><font size=2><HR SIZE=1> I have never posted anything on the Internet before so please forgive me if I tend to ramble. I wanted to post here so that maybe my experiences can help others. I am glad I found this website, Thanks Kelly. I was just about at the end of my rope.<br> I am a 27 year old mother of two young sons. My little boys are the only reason I continue to exist. I can sincerely say I would not wake up to one more day if it was not for them. I truly believe they are the only reason I was put on this Earth and I know they are the only reason I linger here. Sometimes I think they would be better off without me, but I believe children need their mothers.<br> I have trouble living. That is the only way I can describe it. I am always lonely, even when there are people around. I always feel sad and tired. I always feel guilty because I feel so alone and sad when I should not. I cannot bear to look at myself in the mirror, I absolutely disgust myself. I am physically healthy and normal aside from being hideous and overweight.<br> I do not and have never used drugs or alcohol.I barely take tylenol.I am trying to take good care of my organs, I plan to be an organ donor so that even if it is in death, I will have at least done something right once. <br> Every morning when I wake up, I think "Not again, not again."The days seem like they take forever to pass. I feel like I spend all of my time watching the clock. The only true peace I ever feel is when I am sleeping, if I am lucky. Most of the time when I am "sleeping" my mind is racing and I cannot stop thinking long enough to rest.<br> I can barely go out anymore. People stare at me, I feel them. It hurts. It hurts.<br> I wanted to go to a doctor, but it is not an option. I live in a small town and word travels fast around here. I know I could not sit in a doctors office and explain this. I couldn't even get to the doctors office without asking someone for a ride. I do not drive unless it is life and death. I am horrified of driving.<br> My husband takes me out to shop once a week or so. The rest of my life is home with my children, and the Internet. I never, ever use chartrooms or forums. I like the solitude I find on the Internet, I am not a very social beast.<br> Sitting here alone a few nights ago, I decided to search the Internet for information about what I am going through. I have lived this way for seven years now. I am tired.<br> I found information about depression. I believe this could be my problem. I read about all of the different medications available-Scary. I finally found Kelly's SJW pages. Thanks again Kelly. I was so relieved to see another option,SJW.<br> I read and read. I have been going down this tunnel for so long that I was growing certain it must be a bottomless well instead of a tunnel, but now, I believe I see the faintest glint of the (supposed) light at the end of the tunnel.<br> Today was shopping day. I have no job and no money and so I must ask my husbands permission for anything and everything I want or need. I requested SJW and he granted it.<br> I took my first pill at lunch. I took my second one tonight. I'll take more tomorrow and try to get on a regular schedule with it. I do not feel any different yet, but I understand from reading in the forums that it can take a while. I do not dare dream of happiness. I just want to find living bearable. I am not asking to laugh or smile, I just want the pain of life to lessen, just a little.<br> I plan to periodically post an update about my progress here in these forums. Not that I expect it to matter to anyone, but if this works for me, maybe my experience can help keep someone else from giving up.<br> All of your post here in this forum have really helped me. You all seem like such kind people. Thank you and please keep posting. It does matter. Wish me luck.
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WORTHLESS</b></font><br><font size=1></font><br></td><td align=right><font size=2> <!--<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/ip1.gif" border=0 ALT="205.188.208.171 "><br>&nbsp;Profile&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/profile1.gif" border=0 alt="user profile"><br>&nbsp;Edit/Delete&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/edit1.gif" border=0 alt="edit/delete message"><br>&nbsp;Reply&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/email2.gif" border=0 alt=--></font></td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <font size=2 color=#0082BF><p><IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "**UPDATE** Feeling Better!" </FONT><font size=1>, Sat 22 Feb 12:39</FONT><font size=2><HR SIZE=1> Hello, <br> I am truly sorry it has taken me so long to post an update. Today is the first time I have returned to Kelly's pages since I began taking SJW on Feb. 6. I had no idea so many kind and compassionate people would have responded to my posting. Thank you all so much.<br> I am feeling so much better a lot of the time now. I am still experiencing very low times, but the majority of my days seem much brighter.<br> For the first few days of taking SJW, I felt no changes. I continued to take it on a regular schedule because I understood it could take time. It took about a week to begin feeling any results at all.<br> On about the seventh day, I was playing with my little boy. He was telling me stories and jokes. I have been trying to hide my sadness from my children for years, I never wanted them to feel as if I were sad because of them, They are the only thing in this world that brings pure joy into my life. They are why I exist. I have a special "mommy laugh" I use with them.It'just an act. A fake smile with a shallow giggle so that they can feel like they are making me happy with their sweet stories and wonderful drawings. Things have been this way for so long. We were playing, he was telling his story, I almost remember it in a slow-motion dreamlike way, I started laughing- really laughing! Not a pretend laugh, not just for him, for me too! I felt happy, I was amused by his silly story. My cheeks felt tight. It has been so long since I laughed. It felt so good. My little boy knew it was a different laugh too. His four-year-old little eyes were filled with a look, almost like he had known my secret all along. He started laughing too. I felt so good!<br> Since then, I have had many more wonderful moments. I have smiled more in the past week than I have in the past several years.<br> I have noticed other changes too. I feel more active and more motivated to do things I enjoy. I feel almost as if I physically move and speak faster. I do not have as much of a sense of dread about leaving my home. I still feel "stared at" when I am in public but it does not seem to upset me as bad, almost as if the edge is gone from my feelings of panic.<br> I am also feeling a little better about myself. This is the least dramatic change. I still recognize my worthlessness and I still have mirrors in my home so I know how I look.Still,I somehow feel sunnier. I am wearing makeup again and I am dressing neater. I figure I might as well work with what I have, pretty or not, instead of against it.<br> I am resting at night now. Really resting. I sleep. I did not even realize how much I missed true sleep. I lay down at night and I think of my children as I drift off into a quiet peaceful place. I wake up refreshed. Each day, I find I am happy to have a fresh page in my book as opposed to dreading the day ahead. My days seem to pass faster and I have hardly been looking at the clock. I think I am going to be OK!<br> I feel like my eyes have been opened. There are so many things, so many colors I have never noticed before. I didn't realize how good my little boys freshly washed hair smelled. I didn't realize how many brand new freckles my oldest son has across his cheeks since that last time I really looked him in the face. I have spent years avoiding looking directly into anyone's eyes because I truly believe that the eyes are the windows to the soul and I did not want anyone, especially my children to see me that way.<br> I hesitate to even mention my one side effect because it is so insignificant. I am only mentioning it in case someone else needs to know they are not alone. It is possible that it is not even related to the SJW. The only negative thing I have noticed is that my skin is very dry. My face is the worst, it is very dry. This is not a big deal and it is such a tiny price to pay for all of the other blessings SJW has to offer. I am just using a lot of dry skin cream.<br> I still have some hard times. I know that the SJW may not be a permanent cure for me. Right now I am just so thankful for every good day I have.<br> Thank you so much to everyone who has wished me well. And to anyone who is reading this because you have just started SJW or are considering trying it, Please give it a chance. It might take some time to start working, maybe longer than it took for me. I believe I got particularly fast results from some of the postings I have read. Please take it on a schedule and take it for several weeks before you give up. I believe it really can help. I had hit rock bottom, and now I am heading back up.<br> I will post another update in the future. These results are enough, but from what I have read I understand there could be a chance of further improvement. If there are no more changes, I will still continue to take SJW. I can smile again. It really has improved the quality of my life. I see it reflected in my children's eyes.
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Teal</b></font><br><font size=1></font><br><IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/TampaBayBuccaneers.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right><font size=2> <!--<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/ip1.gif" border=0 ALT="65.32.104.103 "><br>&nbsp;Profile&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/profile1.gif" border=0 alt="user profile"><br>&nbsp;Edit/Delete&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/edit1.gif" border=0 alt="edit/delete message"><br>&nbsp;Reply&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/email2.gif" border=0 alt=--></font></td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <font size=2 color=#0082BF><p><IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(1):Started SJW today" </FONT><font size=1>, Sun 9 Feb 05:36</FONT><font size=2><HR SIZE=1> I hope this works for you. I've been on it 2 weeks now and feel much better but a little tired after taking it. I'm trying to find love in myself to. Please come back again to this site. I feel like I'm not alone after finding this wonderful site.
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<HR SIZE=1><font size=1>Posts: 0 | | <font size=1>Registered: Sun 9 Feb 2003 5:34</td></tr></table>
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sheephead</b></font><br><font size=1></font><br></td><td align=right><font size=2> <!--<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/ip1.gif" border=0 ALT="195.93.34.9 "><br>&nbsp;Profile&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/profile1.gif" border=0 alt="user profile"><br>&nbsp;Edit/Delete&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/edit1.gif" border=0 alt="edit/delete message"><br>&nbsp;Reply&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/email2.gif" border=0 alt=--></font></td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#eeeeee> <font size=2 color=#0082BF><p><IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(1):Started SJW today" </FONT><font size=1>, Fri 7 Feb 13:39</FONT><font size=2><HR SIZE=1> Dear Friend,<br><br>I was genuinely moved by what you posted on the Message Board.<br><br>'Worthless' is certainly not a name which describes you in any way - you write so eloquently and movingly and totally from the heart. Believe me, you are completely the opposite of worthless.<br><br>This is just a short note to say that I sincerely hope you find some benefit from taking SJW. You say that you will post updates on this Board and, believe me, I shall be looking out for them with me fingers crossed.<br><br>I don't know where you are posting from, but here in the UK, where I live, we have a thing called 'NHS Direct' - a National Counselling Service where you can talk to a doctor in confidence over the telephone and get medical advice. I don't know if you have the equivalent service where you live.<br><br>I really hope that the people that you love and who are nearest and closest to you are telling you every day of every week of every year that you are a wonderful person. No ifs...no buts... no excuses....you so deserve it.<br><br>Sheephead.xx
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Jeanette</b></font><br><font size=1></font><br><IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/artistbirdie.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right><font size=2> <!--<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/ip1.gif" border=0 ALT="152.163.188.197 "><br>&nbsp;Profile&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/profile1.gif" border=0 alt="user profile"><br>&nbsp;Edit/Delete&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/edit1.gif" border=0 alt="edit/delete message"><br>&nbsp;Reply&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/email2.gif" border=0 alt=--></font></td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <font size=2 color=#0082BF><p><IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "You are NOT a "worthless" person" </FONT><font size=1>, Fri 7 Feb 06:50</FONT><font size=2><HR SIZE=1> My dear friend:<br> Please don't call yourself "Worthless." What you have described is severe clinical depression which can and should be treated. I certainly hope that you find relief with St. John's Wort but if you've read Kelly's information on this site, you must know that it's not recommended for severe depression, such as you have been experiencing for far too long. It saddens me that you have to ask your husband for every penny, and I hope tht he's not a controlling, domineering man. Even in a small town, a good doctor, on hearing your symptoms, will treat you for severe depression. If you need a prescription drug, the one with the least side effects is Wellbutrin. I was doing well on it but developed an allergic rash, so I had to stop taking it and I now take SJW. Sounds to me that you're relationship with your husband is not a loving one, and probably not sexually enjoyable, at least not for you. Are you not able to tell your own husband what you're going through. Depression is nothing to be ashamed of. It's a serious medical condition and MUST BE TREATED. You have been chronically depressed for years and may have gained a lot of weight because of it. If you are unable or unwilling to see a doctor then give SJW a trial but you must take Vitamin B-Complex along with it, please get some. It's not expensive. Aren't you able to confide in your own husband and tell him what you're going through? Please write back and tell how you are doing. <br> Jeanette
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<HR SIZE=1><font size=1>Posts: 80 | | <font size=1>Registered: Wed 25 Sep 2002 5:50</td></tr></table>
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19th February, 2006, 04:53 PM
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lara</b></font><br><font size=1></font><br></td><td align=right><font size=2> <!--<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/ip1.gif" border=0 ALT="152.163.188.197 "><br>&nbsp;Profile&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/profile1.gif" border=0 alt="user profile"><br>&nbsp;Edit/Delete&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/edit1.gif" border=0 alt="edit/delete message"><br>&nbsp;Reply&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/email2.gif" border=0 alt=--></font></td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <font size=2 color=#0082BF><p><IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "Re(1):Worthless, how did you know my thoughts" </FONT><font size=1>, Tue 18 Feb 19:12</FONT><font size=2><HR SIZE=1> Hi<br>Just wanted to say that I too have just started taking SJW- about 7 days ago. So far, have not felt any difference, but I know it's early days. I too have 2 children and suffering from feelings of worthlessness, trying to please my husband without pleasing myself...really hope that things will start to change for me and for you and am much encouraged by this web site.<br>It's good to know that we are not alone in this struggle and we will beat this.
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<HR SIZE=1><font size=1>Posts: 0 | | <font size=1>Registered: Tue 18 Feb 2003 19:6</td></tr></table>
<table width=100% cellspacing="1" cellpadding="5" border="0"><tr> <td width="26%" bgcolor=#dddedd valign=top> <table width=100% cellspacing=0 cellpading=0 border=0><tr valign=top><td align=left><font size=2><b> DuPont</b></font><br><font size=1></font><br><IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/faces/USAHockey.gif" border="1" width="32" height ="32" ></td><td align=right><font size=2><font size=2> Home Page <IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/home-1.gif" border=0><br> <!--<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/ip1.gif" border=0 ALT="66.67.69.64 "><br>&nbsp;Profile&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/profile1.gif" border=0 alt="user profile"><br>&nbsp;Edit/Delete&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/edit1.gif" border=0 alt="edit/delete message"><br>&nbsp;Reply&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/email2.gif" border=0 alt=--></font></td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#eeeeee> <font size=2 color=red><p><IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/arrow.gif"> "Re(1):Worthless, how did you know my thoughts" </FONT><font size=1>, Tue 18 Feb 16:39:</FONT><font size=2><HR SIZE=1> Jazzy,<br>I went back and read worthless' post, and I was that same person a few years ago. If your at this board you are ready to change your life, and you will beat depression. If your depression is severe I suggest something stronger than sjw. Maybe a combination of sjw and 5htp or a high dose of just 5htp 300-500 mg. SJW did not work for me (allergic reaction) but 5htp lifted the darkness, hopelessness, worthlessness and lonliness that I felt. I was able to stop crying, get out of bed, and get into THERAPY. Take one day at a time, take baby steps but use all the resources out there to beat it. Listen to uplifting music, I'm a christian and found christian pop music to be very uplifting. Go to the library and take out some books about depression...be informed. Pray, meditate, exercise, volunteer. I know it seems like a lot to change, but you can do it slowly. Just know that you can beat it, your kids need you to. It's a process and like everything else you will have set backs, but just keep plugging along and the light will shine, and you will be happy. <br><br>I know with small children and no support, the hardest part was finding someone to take care of them so I could take care of myself. I was lucky enough to find a therapist with evening hours so my husband watched the kids while I went to talk about my problems. You can take the kids to story hour at the library, and go to church playgroups to hook up with other mothers that may want to exchange babysitting so you can have an hour or two to yourself. I'm sure you'll find the help you need.
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Worthless</b></font><br><font size=1></font><br></td><td align=right><font size=2> <!--<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/ip1.gif" border=0 ALT="64.12.96.78 "><br>&nbsp;Profile&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/profile1.gif" border=0 alt="user profile"><br>&nbsp;Edit/Delete&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/edit1.gif" border=0 alt="edit/delete message"><br>&nbsp;Reply&nbsp;<IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/email2.gif" border=0 alt=--></font></td></tr></table></td><td width="74%" bgcolor=#dddedd> <font size=2 color=#0082BF><p><IMG SRC="http://www.sjwinfo.org/forums/graphics/icons/posticon.gif"> "**UPDATE** I'm PREGNANT!" </FONT><font size=1>, Mon 17 Mar 20:58</FONT><font size=2><HR SIZE=1> Hello again everyone. I started taking SJW on Feb.6.I noticed a tremendous change in myself with in a few weeks. I posted an update on Feb.22.SJW really helped!<br> I am not taking it any more because I have just learned I am pregnant. I am in shock. I had read about the possible interaction with birth control pills, but I do not take the pill due to severe, blinding, ocular migraine headaches. Instead we use other reliable methods of birth control.<br> It took my husband and I a year of constant trying to conceive our youngest child. We had one very minor slip up, which I will spare you the details of, but it was very minor, and now, I am pregnant! We were being careful and we were using protection.(I do understand how this happens)<br> Now I realize this could be a coincidence, but it seems awfully odd. I am not devastated, I am happy. I love my children very much and I know I will love this one just as much.<br> I do not yet know how my life will be with no SJW again, so far I have stayed too sick to notice any change.<br> Has anyone else had a similar experience while taking SJW? I am a bit worried because I was taking SJW for a couple of weeks before I knew I was pregnant. I stopped taking it as soon as I had any idea. I hope everything will be OK. Wish me luck.
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