RR effects immediate or build up over time?

[cdwarrior]

I've read conflicting articles and posts about how long it takes RR to start working. Some say immediately, other say it takes a few days to a couple weeks. Does anyone know for sure? I just started taking it this morning (New Chapter Force 300) and didn't notice anything yet and the day's almost over. So should I have noticed something the first day? Or is this way too soon to tell if it's going to do anything for me?

[maudlin]

The problem is that nobody will be able to tell you for sure because it works differently for everybody. There are tons of different ways how your neurotransmitters can be in disorder and depleted or elevated. What I have understood, for most people it takes quite a while until it kicks in. So nothing to worry about if you don't feel anything on the first day.

It has worked for me immediately, but I am very sensitive. A local anaesthetic in my leg makes me totally pass out. Aspirin works within a few minutes. I am also taking Ameriden, I am not familiar with your brand. Are you sure it is Rhodiola Rosea, siberian origin? Does the packaging say anything about standardization? Ameriden states that 100mg contain 3% standardized Siberian Rhodiola Rosea containing Rosavin, Rosin, Salidroside, and all necessary actives.

How much are you taking? My doc recommended to start with 100mg and then increase only if necessary three days later, and then again 3 days later. She said I could go up to 400mg but I should do it very slowly. I have now been taking 200mg for the last 10 days and feeling pretty well most of the time.

Take it in the morning, not at night. By mistake I took one at night once and did not sleep at all.

Hope you will feel better soon.

[maudlin]

I forgot to say, take it in the morning on an empty stomach, about half hour before breakfast.

[cdwarrior]

Hi, thanks for the quick response.

Yes, New Chapter claims its source is Siberian.

"New Chapter’s RhodiolaForce™ is harvested after a minimum four-year growth in the forests of the Altai regions of Siberia, then carefully low-temperature dried and meticulously extracted to preserve the herb’s precious phytonutrients. Those phytonutrients include numerous and unique anti-stress compounds like rosavins, salidrosides and other biologically active compounds."

And the label says:

"Rhodiola (Rhodiola rosea), root, hydroethanolic extract (5.4-6.6% total rosavins, including 3.6-4.4% rosavin and 0.9-1.1% salidrosides)"

I started right out with 300 mg because I am the opposite of you. I am not sensitive to things. I have to take 2-4 aspirin to get rid of a headache. I can drink 2 cups of coffee and go to sleep. Dentists have to give me twice as many injections of novacaine to numb me up. Maybe it's just going to take some time to affect me. Keep your fingers crossed for me. :smile:

[maudlin]

I am only a poor ignorant, and have no idea, but what you quote from the label sounds OK to me. If the expiration date is note over, then it should be fine. And if you are not sensitive to things, as you describe, then it might just take a while, and it might be necessary to increase the dosage, but wait a bit with that. Keep me posted!
Peace and health to you.

[cdwarrior]

:laugh:...I think this stuff hit me about 5:30 this morning. Suddenly I was wide awake thinking of a million things I wanted to get done today. I couldn't go back to sleep. I finally got up around 7:00 and went non-stop all day. I even cleaned the garage! I haven't done that since we moved in here 5 years ago. I'm sort of regretting it now though. Not only am I tired from waking up so early but my back is killing me from the work in the garage. So, a word of warning...when this stuff kicks in for you don't go all out even though you may have the urge. Take it easy or you're going to be sore the next day!

But, of course, one day is not a good test. Today could have been a fluke. We'll see if I feel this way again tomorrow ... although I really hope I sleep in later this time.

[maudlin]

Sounds like a true breakthrough. I guess aside from feeling sore, your mood is better anyway? If you could not sleep again this past night, it might be worthwhile trying to reduce the dose. If your brand contains 5.4-6.6% Rosavins, your 300mg will be equivalent to 600mg of my brand. And my doc recommended to me not to go over 400mg. As I said earlier, taking 100mg at night was a sleepless experience for me.

In any case, glad you are feeling better. :dance:

[cdwarrior]

Yes, I have been in a better mood. Not great. I wouldn't say I'm happy yet. But certainly not down, and I'm better able to do things instead of resorting to the usual procrastination. I think it will get better. The RR right now is fighting an uphill battle as I'm also weaning myself off Zoloft (down to 25mg now) and I expect that will cause the road to be a little bumpy for a while. I'm also taking an absolutely dreadful antibiotic, Avelox, for a sinus infection. It has the worst side effects of any antibiotic I've ever taken. It has a list of side effects a mile long including mental confusion, memory loss, "feeling of unreality," depression, anxiety, insomnia, fatigue, dizziness, and drowsiness. Considering all that the RR has to overcome I'd say I'm doing pretty well! :laugh:

I'm sleeping better than I did that first night. I still wake up early and start thinking of things I want to get done. But I tell myself to shut up and go back to sleep and that usually works. Part of the problem is it's getting close to summer and the sun comes up at 5:00AM here making it difficult to sleep. I need to get some blackout drapes for my bedroom I think.

I still haven't experienced the mental clarity many say they get from RR but that could be the antibiotics. Just 2 more days and I'm done with that nasty stuff! It will probably take a few days after that to get it all out of my system. Hopefully my head will clear up then. I'll keep you posted.

[cdwarrior]

Hey, this stuff is great ... so far! (Yes, I'm forever skeptical)
I've actually been feeling happy yesterday and so far today for no reason whatsoever. I haven't won the lottery or had any other "happy" thing happen lately to account for it. :laugh:
The only problem I'm having is now that I'm weaing off the Zoloft (down to 12.5mg now) my generalized anxiety symptoms are returning. I've read 5-HTP and SAM-e work a little more like a SSRI and might have the calming effect Zoloft had. Does anyone know if it's safe to take Rhodiola with 5-HTP or SAM-e?

[maudlin]

That is exactly what I have been doing since yesterday. I am taking RR in the morning, and 5-HTP in the evening. I am not sure how much, it is this mix that I got from the place that tested my neurotransmitters. But from what I can tell, if you take the RR in the morning (it is supposed to clear yout mind) and the 5-HPT in the evening (enhancing serotonin and thus melatonin, and thus sleep), it should work just fine.
I had a mostly good, altough a bit cranky, day today towards the middle of it. But this evening, I was even happy. I just took a dose of the evening stuff, so I will be sound asleep soon, at least I was dead tired half hour after taking it last night (supposed to be taken an hour before bed).

[Guai girl]

Hi, after several months of anti-biotics, my husband has finally been able to start Rosavin and we're wondering please if he can take both 100mg capsules together before breakfast, or split the dose to include before lunch as well, as suggested on the trial packet from Ameriden. It's difficult to remember to take it twice!

I posted earlier this year that he'd been on St John's Wort for a year and it did nothing for him, so we're hopeful that this Rosavin will do the trick! Thanks for your help and best wishes to everyone, Nin:lookaround:

[cdwarrior]

Hi, after several months of anti-biotics, my husband has finally been able to start Rosavin and we're wondering please if he can take both 100mg capsules together before breakfast, or split the dose to include before lunch as well, as suggested on the trial packet from Ameriden. It's difficult to remember to take it twice!

I posted earlier this year that he'd been on St John's Wort for a year and it did nothing for him, so we're hopeful that this Rosavin will do the trick! Thanks for your help and best wishes to everyone, Nin:lookaround:

I take 300mg first thing in the morning. I don't take any more later in the day. I've been thinking about splitting it, though, because I sometimes get an afternoon slump. But since my energy usually picks up again in the evening I don't think it's the Rhodiola. More likely the two cups of coffee I have each morning have worn off and I have to work through my caffeine crash. Probably better if I just quit the caffeine but I love my morning coffee!

[Guai girl]

Hi, I meant to say in the previous posting, that we're confused about the various little trial packets that Ameriden has kindly sent for my husband (Simeon) to try? There are only enough of each sample to last afew days and we're not sure which one to stick with from the choice of Rosavin, Rosavin Plus and Clear Mind. How can one know in only afew days? He's been on plain Rosavin (200mg)for three days now and not felt any different yet. Any suggestions please?

Simeon has had major depression for years (anxiety,fatigue and lack of interest in life) so something strong would hopefully be beneficial. He managed to wean himself of Prothiaden a second time (a year ago) before trying SJW to no avail. Pity SJW didn't work for him. He sleeps ok, even with naps during the day, so I don't think he needs to try 5HTP yet. Thank you! Regards, Nin :lookaround:

[cdwarrior]

Hi, I meant to say in the previous posting, that we're confused about the various little trial packets that Ameriden has kindly sent for my husband (Simeon) to try? There are only enough of each sample to last afew days and we're not sure which one to stick with from the choice of Rosavin, Rosavin Plus and Clear Mind. How can one know in only afew days? He's been on plain Rosavin (200mg)for three days now and not felt any different yet. Any suggestions please?

Simeon has had major depression for years (anxiety,fatigue and lack of interest in life) so something strong would hopefully be beneficial. He managed to wean himself of Prothiaden a second time (a year ago) before trying SJW to no avail. Pity SJW didn't work for him. He sleeps ok, even with naps during the day, so I don't think he needs to try 5HTP yet. Thank you! Regards, Nin :lookaround:

I started right out with 300mg and noticed a difference the second day. I have a friend who tried it and noticed a difference right away. I'd say if he hasn't noticed anything after several days maybe try a higher dose or another brand. But it's hard to say. It might take a week or more for some people to notice a difference, although it seems most notice within a couple days if they notice anything at all. I don't know anything about Rosavin. It's it just rhodiola root or is it standardized extract? You want to make sure it's Siberian and that it's standardized extract. I use New Chapter Force 300. It's the only brand I've tried, so I don't know how it compares to Rosavin, but so far it's working great.